On 10/20/2016 09:57 PM, grarpamp wrote:
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Is it considered unusual to think politicians need to be held to a HIGHER STANDARD needing DIFFERENT RULES if they're going to have relegated and delegated power over our lives?
Don't forget another type... engineered power. One example...
Not to pick the fly feces out of the pepper. Engineering, social (which covers a lot of ground you know? Like engineered economics ... neuropsycholgical programming through advertising, shiny toys easy revolving credit, lifelong consumer debt slavery) is how you get people to relegate... Creating a politics where ... how did Ben Franklin put it?
And of what kind are the men that will strive for this profitable pre-eminence, through all the bustle of cabal, the heat of contention, the infinite mutual abuse of parties, tearing to pieces the best of characters? It will not be the wise and moderate; the Iovers of peace and good order, the men fittest for the trust. It will be the bold and the violent, the men of strong passions and indefatigable activity in their selfish pursuits. These will thrust themselves into your Government and be your rulers.
...where no one EXCEPT total psychopathic scumbuckets would participate is another kind of engineering. Franklin said the act of PAYING people to be executives in government alone would be enough to accomplish that engineering feat. He DOES go on...
And these too will be mistaken in the expected happiness of their situation: For their vanquished competitors of the same spirit, and from the aame motives will perpetually be edeavouring to distress their administration, thwart their measures, and render them odious to the people.
Opposition to Executive Salaries (June 2 1787), Antifederalist papers http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/documents/1786-1800/the-anti-federalist-papers/opp...
In the US since the late 1980's, the glorified "debates", aka: a few minutes each of useless drivel spread over an hour or so, the only same room convos people are allowed to see, perhaps the defining moments in American Politics before the elections themselves... are a joint scam created and run by the two big parties under exclusive and secret contracts. They designed the rules to exclude all other candidates, and disallow their own candidates to participate in any other outside debates, such as the one occurring on October 25. There's not been a third party american presidente since 1870... that's 150 years of scam. And the US Congress is similarly partied out. All under the same circle jerk style agreements. They win, You lose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_&_Equal_Elections_Foundation http://freeandequal.org/2016/10/free-and-equals-presidential-debate-will-be-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commission_on_Presidential_Debates http://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/19/us/democrats-and-republicans-form-panel-to... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_debates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_debates,_2... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens'_Debate_Commission