Stefan, I read your reply here as an attempt to disregard and devalue what I was mentioning, and I was thinking, and realised that usually people are just not considering the same things.  It's hard to remember this, and I'm sorry I interpreted you this way.

On Sun, Dec 5, 2021, 12:08 PM Stefan Claas <spam.trap.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 5:08 PM Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Karl,

> > - Stefan's email account also talks strangely, often expressing overt
> support of centralised tech without logical explanation.  I don't know
> why anybody would do that.

Not sure what you mean. I always supported decentralization
in the global and centralized Internet (a mesh that spans
around the globe as a single closed item,

I don't see how "spanning the globe" is "centralized" or how the internet is "closed" and it's hard for me to take the expression seriously when I read it on this list.  I do see that there is a lot of bounding around e.g. the IP and TCP protocols and certain physical infrastructure, and that it's classist in that you need access to technology to use it, and how dependence on these introduces similar problems as centralization.  Is this what you meant?

I still interpret the internet as a point to point routing system with fault management.  When that's not true, we see it as a break.

compared to decentralized
post offices where users can send an encrypted letter from
country a to b while the rest can't intercept.)

When you say "can't intercept" here, I don't know how to interpret it.  Letters can be physically followed at a human pace and are poorly secured, and delivery is managed by government-ordered bodies that can be authorised to search them.  I've had my mail copied and also opened in transit, myself.  When I was a kid, I looked inside others' mailboxes for fun.  It's hard to encrypt an envelope, etc.

I do think postal encrypted messages are really great and it's quite heartening to read of you doing this.  Far, far easier to hack your network interface to upload video of your face, than your stack of stamps and envelopes.

Post offices strike me as centralised, messaging in general decentralised, maybe I am wrong.

BTW. Not sure if you have access to a good library in
your local area. If so, check out the book "The Matrix"
from 1990, from John S. Quaterman, which shows you
what decentralization is when it comes to global computer
networks, compared to Democrat Al Gore's commercial
Internet. ;-)

> Hope you both are well, sorry you bumped.

No problem Karl and I am fine.

Best regards
Stefan