On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 06:51:47PM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 16:21:37 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 07:38:08PM -0300, Juan wrote:
If you actually were anti state you'd be against the family too, because the family is the source of all the authoritarian nonsense or 'culture' that makes the state possible.
Of course the logic in this is logical, but ... ...
Point being, broken families in no way guarantee something other than maintenance of a despotic authoritarian state!
I don't think the difference between 'broken' families and 'good' families makes too much sense. Good cops are dead cops.
I keep read you saying "any family is a bad family, since family perpetuates bad stuff". That won't wash with me. You'll need a more cogent argument than ...
Of course, some families are worse than others but they all operate on the same authoritarian principle : "my house, my rules"
... "they're all bad"
And people who have been subjected to such 'philosophy' since they are born will then accept state authority as something 'normal'.
Just because you cannot conceive of a functional family where something other than "arbitrary" is inculcated, taught and lived, doesn't mean other folks have not lived in successful non-arbitrary dictatorships. And just because some people may have experienced quite functional families, as in a useful environment for discovery of life and oneself, and actually achieved becoming a reasonable adult, does not mean that most "families" in "modern" "society" might be quite dysfunctional in various ways - our schooling system certainly perpetuates (creates!) a bunch of psychological problems which then permeate the families of those who have those problems and try to create a functional family. But even to decry our fellow human's' attempts to create functional families, when those attempts are genuine/ sincere, before the fact, is frankly absurd. Perhaps your usually rigiorous logic has fallen to dysfunctional past experiences on this occasion Juan?