From: Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net>
>> Therefore, I conclude that it would be easy to measure the minimum
>> effective speed of the  hypothetical interfering particle or wave.
>>  That particle or wave would have to travel 41,000meters in less than
>> 13.7 nanoseconds, to achieve that interference.  Time measurement to
>> 1 nanosecond is easy, to 1 picosecond is doable, and in fact
>> measurement of time valuesfar less than 1 picosecond can be
>> accomplished.


>So it seems to me that information is in fact being transmitted. So I
>can freely philosophize and hopythesize in science fantasy, soon to
>become science fact :)

I find it hard to NOT come to the conclusion that information is, in fact,
being transmitted.  The problem is that it appears that nature is
conspiring with itself to prevent us from using this communication for useful
purposes.  

But we can certainly hope that someday, some scientist discovers how to 
break the barrier that would prevent that.  But even once that barrier is broken,
engineering difficulties would still exist.  I can imagine that even though FTL
communication would then be possible, it could not be set up instantaneously
between us, on Earth, and (say) Alpha Centauri    (AC)


My first thought was that a space vehicle could be sent to a location midway
between us and AC.  Once there, it would generate data streams based on entangled
photons, aimed at us and AC.  Those photons, once emitted, would take 2.1 years
to arrive at here and AC.  At that point, we can detect those photons, and those on
AC could do so as well, at FTL speed.  (Again, assuming that somebody eliminates 
the barrier to FTL communications we currently see.)

But there's a faster way.  If one of the pairs of entangled photons were kept, in "cold
storage" as it were, the other of the pair could be immediately fired towards AC, and
AC could do the same.  After 4.2 years, our photon streams could arrive there, and
their photon streams could arrive here.  At that point, FTL transmission could begin.

A few years ago, we heard of an experiment lowering the speed of photons to a bid
over 30 mph.  ('c' is 186,282 mph, or 299,000 km/sec).   Later experiments dropped that
value to virtually zero.  

Suppose the speed of photons were dropped to 1 millimeter per second,
in 4.2 years they would have moved 132,500 meters.  




Keep those photons stored, and when the Alpha Centaurians detect the other of the
 pair of entangled photons, that fact could potentially be detected here as well.



WTF!!!!!!

                         Jim Bell