(was: Re: Meet "badBIOS") additional clarification regarding my last post... https://cpunks.org//pipermail/cypherpunks/2013-November/001957.html i did not thoroughly think through my explanation and a large gap exists in reasoning, and so want to provide additional explanation about how it could be possible to defeat existing security measures via this approach +------+ attacker ---> | SCIF | +------+ basically the idea of a boundary or wall around a SCIF, even if acoustically and electromagnetically shielded, is proposed possible to bypass via resonance and-or also quantum effects if they were to function in a similar way so even though a boundary could exist for EM and sound, that separates what is outside from what is inside, it is proposed that an attacker could potentially move through this boundary and still interact with interior equipment via acoustic and electromagnetic principles what was missing from the explanation was that this attack could occur within a context of 'other dimensions' or additional dimensionality, versus 4D of space-time that is presumably standardized for the basic security evaluation [4D] ---> [otherD] ---> [4D] in other words, what is proposed is that resonance could occur outside of only a 4 dimensional context, as part of the larger nested circuitry of the cosmos, and bypass the bounded "physics" of limited 4D space-time and its rules, to reemerge on the inside of the SCIF security perimeter, in a context accessed by electromagnetism and sound (as these may be connected with, interdimensionally) f l a t l a n d ...................... +------+ attacker ---> | SCIF | +------+ in other words, this is to recontextualize the SCIF in the realm of multiple dimensions beyond space-time, that hierarchically could exist in N-dimensions, which is proposed to correlate with a state of absolute truth like Flatland the novel, higher dimensions may exist unseen due to parameters or limits, and thus beyond imagination, unless somehow accessing keys to the threshold condition, the structure connecting layers (note: relation of electromagnetism, sound; the aether) so while an attack against a SCIF could be defeated by electromagnetic and acoustic shielding that would not allow such emissions to escape in 4D, seemingly, this condition may not exist within higher dimensions that can bypass the secure boundary, threshold, 'wall' f l a t l a n d ...................... (otherD)--------. | | | | | v | +------+ attacker ---> | SCIF | +------+ if an attacker, for instance, had equipment that could access this higher dimensionality, likely using acoustic and electromagnetic technology to do so, it may involve a circuit that exists outside 4 dimensional space-time, and moves through a higher-dimensionality to breach the protective barrier, reemerging on the other side of the wall, inside the SCIF, via acoustic and EM effects, such as resonance or perhaps quantum-correlations due to entanglement of matter, energy, information f l a t l a n d ...................... (otherD) (attacker) | | v +------+ secure ---> | SCIF | +------+ likewise, a true security threat could today exist that in this way appears entirely *invisible* because it is functioning beyond normal perception in a 4D context which is actually nested within higher dimensionality and thus omniscient-like observation, surveillance, if not political meddling and exploitation could occur from beyond the normal realm of perception, via similar means yet remain officially unaccounted for and unacknowledged, though be the actual context for events that are occurring, which tends towards a Matrix red pill or blue pill situation in other words, the attackers could be invisible and have the advantage of different physics, and be siphoning data and information from other dimensionality yet basically remain unseen or removed from immediate interactions, though rely on avatar-like secondary relations as part of a management scheme, in a realm as if "make believe" note: in this context, "binary computation" could relate to dimensionality and in this way: mathematics in 4D could be differently patterned in higher dimensions if not solvable via unseen correlations (math based on patterns, dimensionality effecting their functionality, how the patterns relate, 'compute', via structures) attacker [4D] ==> [otherD] ---> SCIF: ==> [4D] equipment thus, even in the four dimensional context, if this could be circumvented to defeat the security barrier or wall of the SCIF, a principle that is interdimensional such as resonance could appear on both side of this boundary and yet not pass through it in 4D space-time, instead the attack would leave this realm, move into a higher dimensionality and reappear elsewhere in 4D, within acoustic and electromagnetic principles that involve pairing or matching can that be remotely correlated, as with entangled objects and acoustic resonance sound/em [4D] ==> [otherD] ---> SCIF: ==> [4D] sound/em thus to clarify: the 'magic flute' of some unknown technology would access other dimensionality via its acoustic or other principles, and perhaps this is also potentially ~natural or automatic- and could reappear on the other side of the boundary, via this] resonance or entanglement, even while the SCIF is designed to protect against any such outside/inside interactions, because it goes beyond 4D spacetime and involves interdimensional circuits of connection, seemingly fundamentally involving information itself as this connects to matter and energy structurally (perhaps in some ways related to information and its hypothesized ability to escape a blackhole) (such structures are what CERN could be dealing with in the unmentionable Da Vinci Code realm, where the recontextualization of dark matter and dark energy could involve bridging into higher dimensionality) i.e. the hack is literally "out of this world" & back or could start in higher dimensionality from the start or be coordinated across the dimensional boundary by a shared-identity group attacker in multiple dimensions, e.g. agents in 4D coordinated with higher dimensionality where the stealth attacks could be multipronged, ~magical. of ceiling cat voyeurism involving higher dimensionality Š « Ȑ