OK, ok, slight exaggeration - voting in a secession referendum is illegal, says Spain to Catalonia. Since only States are sovereign, and not people (say the States), secessionist referenda are illegal. And besides, it's for your safety. Crimea is a case in point - with a few million bullets fired, blood on the streets and carnage the world has rarely seen, Crimeans paid a high price for the reuniting with Russia. Oh, it didn't quite go like that? Oh well, you know, voting is illegal and all... and the State of Ukraine murdering it's own people in a genocidal attempt to cause them to "reunite" with the other land, we have a prime example of why the State must, at all times, be granted ultimate sovereignty, and the people must be dominated with bullets. And missiles. And land mines, shelling, RPGs and everything else the state can muster, to establish order in the world. "Democracy" loving Westerners both decry the Crimean's zero bullet referendum (what a concept), whilst demanding the USA's "God" given right to impose "democracy" by missile upon any unsuspecting nation State that has some excess oil. Or lots of non-excess oil that the USA wants. Or other resources... And on and on the Western "moral high ground" hypocrisy goes... Cue another ridiculous jnn rant in 3 ... 2 ... What a world we live in. Catalonia sets date for landmark vote on independence from Spain https://www.rt.com/news/391627-catalonia-independence-vote-date/ The autonomous region of Catalonia will have the decisive referendum on secession from Spain on October 1, the regional government announced on Friday. The move comes after a months-long standoff with Madrid, which decries the vote as illegal.