These spammers are continuing to spam the list. These accounts are both doing nothing but robotic spamming, flooding users mailboxes, blowing out the archives, spamming identical copies many tens of times, spewing gibberish, making no point or commentary, running bots, spamming other non subscribers into the list, etc. THOUSANDS of SPAM, MONTH after MONTH they SPAM... And they have admitted willful intent to destroy the list. One spampsychobot itself "Gunnar". Another spampsychobot calls itself "Karl". All have condemned their spam. As before, the internet has long since decided that such spammers have no right to inflict such abuse on lists. And rate limiting spammers does not solve the problem. So, this time, do your job Greg... The Internet has provided three options for list operators... 1) You must kick these spammers accounts off the list. 2) You must set the moderation flag on these spammers accounts and deal with and filter them out yourself. 3) You must move these spammers accounts off to a separate new list that you create for them alone. So take your pick of the above options and do your job Greg.