On 07/09/2016 01:29 PM, juan wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jul 2016 23:03:00 -0600 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
Was there an option to not join any state?
I suspect not, but in the context, I think that would literally have been suicide. Or endless civil war as we see since then (the last two years) in eastern Ukraine.
I find it hard to imagine how anarchist societies could develop in our currently state-dominated world.
Well, the statists can simply leave the anarchists alone. Sure it's unlikely, but it's simple.
Yes, very unlikely.
But my point was that the referendum wasn't especially pristine.
The soundest pro russian argument here may be that the russians didn't raze crimea to the ground...which is something the NATO humanitarians were more likely to do.
Anarchist societies have survived through isolation, and some still do. But how does that work in places under active state contention?
Also, anarchy seems to work best when everyone is more-or-less equally powerful. Everyone has the same weapons, for example. In science fiction, anarchist societies typically depend on some new technology that eliminates states' power monopoly.
What technologies? The only 'technology' I can imagine making a difference would be some sort of physical shield that would make it impossible for individuals to be physically attacked.
Vinge's bobbles? But then we get to _Marooned in Realtime_.
Maybe it'll be the Singularity.
The sigularity is singular bullshit. If anything it seems likely to replace(i. e. kill) humanity with a bunch of motherfucking psychos like kurzweil and the rest of master-race 'elite' lunatics.
I like https://anarplex.net/hosted/files/last_trumpet/LTP.pdf :)