-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 03/18/2016 03:35 PM, Sean Lynch wrote:
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Anthony Papillion <anthony@cajuntechie.org <mailto:anthony@cajuntechie.org>> wrote:
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On 03/18/2016 01:02 PM, dan@geer.org <mailto:dan@geer.org> wrote:
Apple will have its Snowden.
That's not a given. Everyone believes that Windows has backdoors and spying components in it but we've not seen a single Snowden from Microsoft. Why would we from Apple, an even more secretive company than Microsoft?
Or, just playing devils' advocate, perhaps we haven't seen any Snowdens from Microsoft because there's nothing to be leaked? Perhaps, instead of demanding cooperation from vendors and risking getting caught, the government focuses on building the capability to exploit bugs and opsec failures on the part of their targets.
That /could/ be true. But why should we believe that they wouldn't have enlisted the cooperation of Microsoft prior to the dates on the Snowden leaks? The NSA has been cooperating with companies since the 1970's (and got in a lot of trouble about it). Why would they ignore a company that has 90%+ of the desktop market worldwide? Possible but unlikely IMHO. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJW7GcUAAoJEAKK33RTsEsVVZIQAKly2eCxgmAHgkyhz1/patK9 IapaxW1dMJk9BJ+pxB9x4IQIEIN29tegapgyWT1FKU9hGhBG2ByWWKLS4GlqAy3n Xhsd+zJIdxP+jilDYZ/np6IyzeOXi9iab7uu6UmNw0nCoFrJnu0t8edDPvGNuDc7 SIrSK8ZQjR66yom2tiZj+AaOzfLcJQVPijNajoidov47+GyPqmXtYU2wr+wgLS0H xCCz8eyK/TAPa+vJjiAXSAW2I1FtRVoRZ+hkRdp/U7F/lkgsu+IKG7K5dZjUYNtB 8Ga26au/TXHJT9wowdpGDEkcXxj2MapJKG3hjMfr0fx0te+TjntAfohwJWxmXAzn giGnIV1RyTp3pGdMCJksQmg4p3xDbULKYUjwe3jaHMOtrszMKhMThb0i3hz5+5Q9 tKkLJlyTbP+ivwJ4t/ZyPhDNqyoKjx7y6926YPAN7kAGO5tjDupgEtKiu6X2u6s6 jyBBEfRC+0T2Qo9kBFjqPl/RjQRkcZoupZ4/ja2mVEXPnSTqdPqoY4IngMUIC5ey dIRX52XReaZkT039zpSx7ZR2ZW7ELp3r8I+TqPvpOIrWinnW4eSQ1jO6kfwxaPq2 ch8hhCw6VnNyapSbpgDkb4vCpEHxEsy3XdOg4jf2Y/RSsjFqHH+/F3yshBF/ITBv BFBPXl/5NkqUzh0gMTEr =L+Pi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----