On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 02:43:27AM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote:
On 09/25/2017 06:07 PM, jim bell wrote:
On Monday, September 25, 2017, 12:54:38 PM PDT, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote: On 09/25/2017 02:18 PM, jim bell wrote:
Enigmail imported a public key 598CAF689C6D998F, which I would bet a nickel is Jim's - but the message above returned "BAD signature from Jim Bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com <mailto:jdb10987@yahoo.com>>"
Curses, foiled again!
Yes, Yahoo as a email client is appearing to me to be increasingly frustrating. Years ago, I recognized that it was technically incompetent and hopelessly PC. ?? ??But its mail is terrible. ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??Jim Bell
Once Upon A Time, I got so damned tired of Yahoo! "mail" that I registered a domain name and got a web hosting account /just/ for real e-mail service. It was WAY worth it. Shameless plug: For hosting I like Pair Networks a lot.
I still use a hosting company out of my home town, in good ol' Tejas. But I did something very similar, except I maintain all the mailer software and the system itself. It's nice to have full control over your domain / website / nameserver / mailserver / whatever, if you can spare the minmimal amount of time to get it up and keep it running.
More fun: Thunderbird speaks POP, IMAP and lately, even integrates with GMail and Yahoo! if so required. The Enigmail plugin makes crypto functions e-z, even has a wizard for making brand new keys, as a mail-oriented front end for GPG.
Mutt speaks IMAP and also works quite well with a local Maildir box, if you happen to be running it on your mail server (and it's particularly fast with larger boxes when you've enabled header cache - I recommend lmdb as the backend). And it does GPG/PGP nicely with no need for plugins, just a few config lines which can be quickly found on google.. Of course, it's not everyone's cup of tea, and maybe I'll revisit Thunderbird some day.. I generally use either mutt or whatever mail client I'm stuck with according to which phone I happen to have on me at the time.
Reasonable security and reliability != difficulty and complexity for the end user; as far as I can tell the belief that things are the opposite of that is a product of 30 years of snake oil vendors disparaging simple, effective professional tools.
I'm sure this is true. I just like fucking around with the system :P