On Oct 3, 2016 12:29 PM, "Cari Machet" <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:

I am always astounded by intelligent people buying into political theater ... please take a history lesson ... start before the formation of the NSA and look at the roles of the council on foreign relations ... there is also the formulation of the central bank > the fed which is privately held ... then have a bit of a discussion with yourselves

On Oct 3, 2016 12:09 PM, "John Young" <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:

All leaks advance a particular agenda with biased information,
that is their purpose. None are neutral or wholly truthful or
complete representation of material assembled for release.
Withholding and redaction and censorship are obligatory for
the marketing pretense of candor.

No reason to expect WikiLeaks to be any more honest and angelic
than the context from which it derived, is sustained, and reaps
the rewards from. The information spectrum from openness to
Top Secret Codeword is single complicity with pretense of
oppositional multiples to cloak the covert unification.

Moreover, leaks, like hacking and whistleblowing and Tor and
privacy policy and HTTPS, have become lucrative businesses,
profit and celebrity driven. These are urged and supported by
the giants, pipsqueaks, start-ups and spy fronts of commerce
and non-profits and governments.

Leaks are tools of spies before all else, and spies are tools
of authority. Inherently dirty, deceptive, manipulative, dishonest,
all too human. Primarily leaks are entertainment, and in this
like political campaigns, lies and prevarication are essential.

But this is the case with media of all kinds, history, economics,
business, social research, science, math, religion, education,
cryptography, comsec, infosec, espionage, NSA, The Intercept,
Snowden, Manning, Assange, and so on, especially here.