I certainly think that geopolitics is not in general on topic for this
list.
"Western governments" and "western propaganda" also don't seem to me to
be on topic for this list. This is not a list about propaganda or
governance.
Since this list is unmoderated, I am sharing my discontent in the hopes
of demotivating further threads on this topic.
That said, I guess cpunks was never good, it's meaningless to attempt to
stop the shitstorm, etc., and so on. But now there are 2-3 posters who
continually post random conspiracy crap and have built an echo chamber
that totally drowns out any actual cypherpunking.
Better posters (you know who you are), please stop encouraging this.
On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 17:44 -0300, Juan wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:05:20
-0400
Ted Smith <tedks@riseup.net> wrote:
What's the cypherpunk link in this?
That was part of a discussion on the nature of western
governments and western propaganda.
Do you think that discussions on the nature of western
governments are off-topic? Maybe banned?
Maybe we should instead talk about how terrible the suffering
of US military murderers is?
paging Nick Econopouly <nickeconopouly@gmail.com>
On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 19:41 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
http://russia-insider.com/en/hey-obama-what-about-serbias-territoral-integrity/ri8092
Summary at bottom, summarizing shifting position of "west" over
some time: "So let us recount the western position:
- It claimed to uphold the sovereignty and territorial integrity
of other countries and the inviolability of borders in Europe
- However, this did not extend to the sovereignty and the
territorial integrity of Federal Yugoslavia which could be trampled
at will
- Nonetheless, albeit the territorial integrity of Federal
Yugoslavia itself wasn’t worth anything, the territorial integrity
of its constituent republics seeking independence was holy
- Albeit the territorial integrity of the Yugoslav constituent
republics of Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina was holy,
the territorial
integrity of Serbia was not
- Albeit Slovenes, Croats and Bosnian Muslims could leave
Yugoslavia, Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia
- Albeit Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia, Kosovo
Albanians could secede from Serbia
- Albeit Kosovo Albanians could secede from Serbia, Kosovo Serbs
could not secede from Albanian-run Kosovo
- Albeit Kosovo could unilaterally secede from Serbia under NATO
military control, Crimea could not unilaterally secede from Ukraine
under Russian military control
May world be spared hunger, plague and western principles.
"