On 11/22/2016 12:03 PM, jim bell wrote:


From: Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net>
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 03:35:00AM +0000, jim bell wrote:

> Libertarians,
> in America, have to operate within the existing system.

No, they have to start from the existing system, and existing programmed
humans, when considering appropriate future changes and the propaganda
required to get those "existing programmed humans" to that future.
(This is probably what you meant - "to operate" didn't sound right to
me.)

Yes, that's what I meant.  It's unfair, as Razer did, to somehow blame libertarians for the state of the American political system.  We can try to change it, and we do, but that takes time.  

                   Jim Bell



What I'm saying is I'm not seeing the same people interested in change in the direction you claim.


The economic elite are responsible, and Libertarian "Ethics" including a racist classiist 'sharing, taskrabbit-flexible, economy' LIbertarians promote where the economic elite get 'the share' and desperate laborers who will work without labor protection just so they can make rent, do the 'tasks' has a big piece off the blame for the injustices in the US political system.


Rr