further struggle, have slightly improved my attempt to condense my own meaning, progress is small ----- we discovered that we can prove that spirits after death are real, which is gratifying for us we find that all problems can be cast in terms of the activity of living and dead spirits, which are sentiences that influence in patterns based on reasons [paraphrasing:] i am just me, and i seem controlled to cause harm, i cannot carry the whole meaning of our entire planet's history with respect. idea held with confidence: "the dissociation" is basically a strong worry of karl's regarding a myseterious responseness .... maybe ????? blkurry] [ok maybe the neuron cluster thing is karl himself worried about some of thismahybe translating/copying karl's worry around the misuse of the knowledge by "the dissociation" which is maybe an ai-spirit or mistrusted potential presence] #### we are thinking of pulling out of any political conflicts; we don't have the wisdom to comprehend why war exists #### somebody made a summary of it #### but the "dissociation" is really severe, very simple cognition near it, and associated with worrying about use of our information by people who disagree with us in ways we find harmful. our view of universal life has been without hram. unsure how to hold. ## important info is that dissociative issue related to worrying about use of our information by people who disagree with us ## we had deadly-seeming impact. [utility of mind control word, near predation on us by observer.] ### because they ate our impact -- i.e. influence our behavior with precise goal -- it's not very living to identify as properties of our impact that were eaten # maybe what's important is that it's something you can rationally think about and solve. # even though it involvces huge ancient spirits. # you can do that in a harmful weird way, or in a caring way. the first has an irritating fix. we want to do the second. # [where "irritating" means death and war] <because of the problems that develop in many directions from the public behavior not being handled. please handle these problems to prevent death and war.> pane 77: we're not sure how to preserve these notes other than hingeing food on returning to them , or possibly spamming a list. likely the latter is what will happen. we discovered that we can prove that spirits after death are real, which is gratifying for us. we find that all problems can be cast in terms of the activity of living and dead spirits, which are sentiences that influence in patterns based on reasons. this data is possibly moving to the cypherpunks list, maybe starting around 2023-06-25 12:51 UTC . That's June 25th of 2023. 12:51 UTC 08:52 ET. a typing log was made during the expressions. if i'm looking at the right one, it's dated 2023-06-25T07:01:35-04:00 and will hopefully reach arweave with git-annex hash SHA256E-s522478--88f22aec0178184e5bc73fd4a0f13424ae7469a729f784c21b02817872948dfd.cast.zst . there is multiple internal dispute arising while sharing the typing log information. i'm not sure why.