On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 09:42:29AM -0500, Steve Kinney wrote:
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> On 02/20/2016 09:09 AM, Cari Machet wrote:
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> > you dont get it its much worse - as industry is harnessed the
> > whims of the state are addressed but other pressing life
> > matters are ignored
> >
> > the state is a middle man and controls what life gets to
> > succeed at a scientist that worked on the genome will no longer
> > work with state money and condemns the state - that should tell
> > you what is happening more than anything
> >
> > http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-algae-feed-the-world
> - -and-fuel-the-planet/
>
> I
> >
> think I 'get it.'  I stopped working for DoD contractors about
> 15 years ago, when the last of the jobs in my field that did not
> contribute directly to mass murder went away.  Poverty sucks, but
> not as much as the alternative.
>
> > and tesla ... just look at tesla
>
> He's a favorite of mine, since way before 'Conspiracy Theory'
> propaganda shops made him a major, recurrent theme in their
> bullshit mythology.  The suppression of Broadcast Power is a cool
> story, but:  How come the same people who believe that cell phones
> and WiFi routers cause cancer, demand the right to walk around
> 24/7 inside an RF field dense enough to run heavy machinery?  And
> where do they think the /huge/ amount of energy to run such an
> inherently inefficient, waste-friendly distribution system will
> come from?  Alas, the True Believers' passion is real and
> justified, but they have grossly misplaced their trust...
>
> When I say that the failure of State and Corporate institutions as
> we know them is inherent in the design of State and Corporate
> institutions, it all sounds neat and pretty:  Just a worked-out
> maths problem.  But I am well aware that this means a human
> population crash and all the ugliness that goes with it is on the
> way.  As far as I can tell no power in Heaven or Earth can prevent
> it.  Mitigating the damage to present and future generations
> appears to be the only game left in town.
>
> :o/

Population crash is only true for the populations that cannot
conceive of shared abundance. We've gone from 95% of the population
working on farms to less than 1%, and with the right tools, 5% of
the population with a little AI and distributed production tools
is more than sufficent to feed, fuel, and house the rest.

That, however, doesn't help those who won't eat because they
believe, ever so fervently, in the doom of humanity. Which is
fine, we just have to wait them out and contain the damage,
possibly by sticking them in a simulation of their chosen rapture.
Who knows, maybe that will be the source of organ donors in the
next millenium.

If you insist on being slaughtered, who am I to stop you from
walking into the blender. But I will politely point out the
clearly labeled door number two if you can stop to see it.

> > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Steve Kinney
> > <admin@pilobilus.net <mailto:admin@pilobilus.net>> wrote:
> >
> > On 02/20/2016 08:43 AM, Cari Machet wrote:
> >> its not just about the money
> >
> >> look into hybrid rule initiated by the nixon executive
> >> branch
> >
> >> industry is harnessed like a father fucking mule for the
> >> state
> >>>>>>> for the protection of the state
> >
> > I have come to view the State as a machine that converts money
> > into power, and power back into money, in an accelerating
> > feedback cycle.  This would make 'national security' a
> > mechanism for defending that machine's operation, and of
> > course, accelerating the process of delivering money/power into
> > the hands of those who already have the most of both.
> >
> >> ask yourself why the state would need to amp its protections
> >> : nation state structures are not working its a dying form
> >
> > Verily.  The feedback cycle described above, and the
> > industrial markets that parasitically co-exist with it, must
> > both grow exponentially to survive.  Since this exponential
> > growth is happening inside a closed container, failure is
> > inherent in their structural foundations.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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