John Young | "We are moving toward a post-spy world, according to the guy that | runs the CIA's venture capital arm." FWIW, I don't run In-Q-Tel, In-Q-Tel isn't a venture firm, and I don't recall saying "post-spy" at all. Full text of the speech is at geer.tinho.net/geer.blackhat.6viii14.txt, see for yourselves. In the meantime, tell me if PPD-28 would be satisfied were an artificial semi-intelligence doing the searches rather than humans. What if surveillance data was mined not by people who could go to jail but by self-modifying programs that co-evolve with the subject of the surveillance. Tell me that "the more complex the decision the more surely it will be left to humans" is a long-term guiding ethic. Opine on whether "algorithmic regulation" aimed at a single individual needs be visible to that individual if due process is to be preserved. Perhaps also read "We Are All Intelligence Agents Now", the final technical talk at last February's RSA Conference; see geer.tinho.net/geer.rsa.28ii14.txt . Still got no Clearance... --dan