-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/2016 08:05 AM, John Newman wrote:
Do any gmail users (which I've noticed there a lot of on the list, as well as in real life, heh) feel at all threatened by what Google is doing with access to your entire mail stream? They've publicly stated users have no "reasonable expectation of privacy".
Do you use gmail for your main / private / important emails, in addition to list correspondence?
Or do you consider the internet so pwned that it doesnt matter? (although, why make it easier for them..)
"Obsessive avoidance of Internet surveillance does not take you off the radar, it only takes you out of the game." - Me When it comes to the "chilling effects" of State surveillance, everybody who subscribes to CPunks is a member of a certain type of Polar Bear Club. Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke. I use GMail accounts as spam filters, i.e. destination addresses for contact forms on websites, and as logins for G-Everything services like Google Analytics. Google Analytics does make it "easier" for Google's best friend, tech support department and business partner NSA to keep track of who is visiting the websites in question, but the trade-off in utility for yrs. truly & clients more than justifies that. Anybody who wants a lower profile on the networks already blocks execution of javascript except from whitelisted domains, and blocks calls from their browsers to any URL with the string "analytics" in its URL. I did register a domain name and hire a hosting service /just/ so I could have real e-mail accounts, more or less under my own control. I did this for convenience, not any belief that it presents a barrier to State surveillance. On a related note, something truly horrible: I have an active account with NSA subsidiary The Facebook. Initially I set it up to test "social network integration" features when making websites: You can't market to the rubes in the cheap seats unless you can see the Internet through their piggy little eyes. Eventually I decided "what the hell" and started pumping out propaganda there. This led directly to physical participation in the local activist & radical scene. Given that my network traffic has been flagged for full take and permanent retention by every U.S. intelligence service capable of same since such capabilities first became available, I am sure that my presence on The Facebook does more harm to them and their interests than it does to me and my interests. State surveillance at least guarantees one an audience. :o) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXfTs5AAoJEECU6c5XzmuqUU0IAILk8R3x+ksm81gQHFZtq14U lWHte1kXuUqDOpgKFgqYgPK3Kz08T1VCGdVFTbdLbqBvKjckBo9pBcY3M1Lr4Las S4/Yd5z0BMCu9oskNV4+UgSzB/Yes0+flSdTLUUhCcNuqbN4Er6cf0ceF6Jz2gO6 P3dBVuQ8oty5bbO/ifExb28GxLBswbRy/RLXJ/oH3WJAmftWz8BC+BXLDQudHR1q mfcqkjkKEhJWPIeop7fdPn9D07vd5C0BYV+89Swl4IGIHCRhJX72z30aUxSdZfkd B99Bx3alffllboYugDYawm1u7DrXSbPsBsmrk6odjwxz2QZR4y8+a6xuZLWDc2Y= =gMLs -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----