Re: reasons to homeschool -- Stand/live your rights, or lose them - homeschooling under attack - Freedom Makes People Smarter

7 Oct 2020

      Take your kids to hacker conferences.

One way to find the truth by looking.

Internet just as dangerous as school right now.  Hard to avoid both.

On Sun, Oct 4, 2020, 9:39 PM Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
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Report A Social Worker For Sexual Harassment And He Might Take Your Kids
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/report-social-worker-sexual-harassment-a...
https://www.sovereignman.com/blog/
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Homeschooling is again under attack.
Consider living your rights boldly, and supporting others who do
On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 05:59:46PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
likewise.
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Create your world,
The Real Reason Why A Harvard Professor Thinks Homeschooling Should Be
Banned
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https://www.theorganicprepper.com/harvard-professor-homeschooling-banned/
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/real-reason-why-harvard-professor-thinks...
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A Harvard University law professor believes that homeschooling is
dangerous and should be banned.
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Elizabeth Bartholet, Wasserstein public interest professor of law
and faculty director of the Law School’s Child Advocacy Program, wrote a
paper recommending a “presumptive ban” on homeschooling children in the
United States. Yeah, that United States. The land of the free, home of the
brave United States.
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According to Bartholet, homeschooling can prevent children from
receiving a meaningful education, leave them open to child abuse, and can
socially isolate them. She argues that anybody can homeschool, even parents
who are illiterate. She suggests that as many as 90% of homeschool parents
educate their kids at home because of conservative Christian beliefs,
inculcating them with the beliefs that women are subservient, science isn’t
real, and white people are the supreme race.
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These parents are committed to homeschooling largely because
they reject mainstream, democratic culture and values and want to ensure
that their children adopt their own particular religious and social views.
Many belong to fundamentalist religious groups, groups that Michael Rebell
describes in his important new book, Flunking Democracy, as believing “that
exposing their children to ideas such as secularism, atheism, feminism, and
value relativism is inconsistent with the values they espouse and
undermines their ability to inculcate in their children their beliefs in
the sacred, absolute truth of the Bible.” Many use alternative textbooks
that teach creationism instead of evolution. Many seek to create for their
children a system of “total socialization” aimed at negating the influence
of competing socialization agents. As Dwyer and Peters say in their recent
comprehensive book on homeschooling, many religious homeschoolers object in
principle to some core goals of public education:
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[T]hey reject the value of independent thinking about values
and aims in life, they oppose instruction in scientific methodologies . . .
and they want to constrain their daughters’ lives to a single
occupation—housewife. To the extent parents in this group do value secular
learning, they treat it—even basic literacy—as of little importance
compared to unflinching acceptance of religious doctrine and reactionary
political views.
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https://arizonalawreview.org/pdf/62-1/62arizlrev1.pdf
I’m sure that will come as a vast surprise to all my homeschooling
friends (particularly the ones who homeschool for secular reasons) who may
have missed that part of the curriculum.
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In her 80-page diatribe, Bartholet completely overlooks the lack
of practical knowledge imparted by the school system. Our kids leave school
knowing all about anal sex and BDSM but not how to do their taxes, make a
reservation, navigate using a map, handle credit, or stick to a budget.
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https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-sex-education-california-20190510-...
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The real issue is a lack of indoctrination.
Ironically, the real problem Bartholet has with homeschooling is
this:
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Many homeschool because they want to isolate their children
from ideas and values central to our democracy.
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https://arizonalawreview.org/homeschooling-parent-rights-absolutism-vs-child...
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Let me rephrase that. Homeschooled children can’t be indoctrinated
five days a week, eight hours a day, by an education system that emphasizes
political agendas. (And incidentally, our form of government is a
constitutional republic. Shouldn’t someone from Harvard who is worried I
might not have the knowledge to educate my child know something as
elementary as that?)
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Bartholet defames homeschoolers for wanting to encourage their
children toward a particular belief system while touting the belief system
that the school system wants to instill. So it’s okay for the public school
system to do it, just not for the parents to do it.
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Here are a few of the things that the public school system wants
children to believe:
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- Everyday things like the food you eat can be racist.
https://www.theorganicprepper.com/portland-school-cracks-down-on-racist-pbj-...
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- Cupcakes can be “insensitive.”
https://www.theorganicprepper.com/michigan-elementary-school-confiscates-ins...
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- You need to feel safe at all times.
https://www.theorganicprepper.com/texas-school-takes-magical-threats-to-chil...
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- Guns are scary.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/17/pop-tart-gun-suspension-uph...
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- Snitching on your parents is encouraged.
https://www.theorganicprepper.com/its-all-fun-and-games-as-a-wisconsin-schoo...
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- Only the school understands nutrition.
https://www.theorganicprepper.com/roast-beef-potatoes-and-carrots-dont-meet-...
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While Bartholet scorns parents who indoctrinate their kids, she
praises the school system for doing so. The American education system is
wholly responsible for raising a generation of perpetually offended people
who think they’re open-minded but who actually are only accepting of those
with the same beliefs.
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They’re creating a generation of worker bees, of dependent people
who’d never dream of revolting against the status quo shown as ideal by
Hollywood and the mainstream media. They’re creating adults who don’t know
how to handle conflict, who don’t know how to deal with defeat, and who are
regularly fearful of imaginary threats. People who are afraid of a tripod
or a pop-tart chewed into the shape of a gun certainly aren’t going to be
leading the next revolution.
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Schools create a culture of fear.
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      It’s even worse when you get to college.
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      Homeschool is just better for some kids.
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      Thank goodness for the HSLDA.
On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 02:36:42PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
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On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 04:39:03AM -0300, Juan wrote:
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2018 16:48:08 -0400
Steve Kinney  wrote:
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On 11/1/18 5:17 PM, juan wrote:
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On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 22:42:17 +1100
Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> Stating the obvious dept, using for those stucked in the
oblivious
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> dept.
> 6 Reasons to Start Homeschooling ASAP
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-31/6-reasons-start-homeschooling-asap
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yeah you can teach the children about the virtues of trump
and putin and how amazing white supremacists are. Even more important, you
can mentally rape them with your christiano fascist propaganda from the
craddle.
vs. point out to them where the curriculum veers off into popular
misconceptions and/or propaganda messaging, and provide access to
supplemental information where and as indicated.
"Brick and mortar" school teaches three lessons of great
importance:
1)  Show up on time every day whether you want to or not.
2)  Do your assigned tasks as directed whether you want to or not.
3)  The people in charge always have all the final answers.
Indeed. Govt schools teach 1) obedience 2) obedience and 3)
obedience.
Just in case, I didn't mean to badmouth homeschooling, at least
not if compared to govt schooling. Rather I was commenting on Zen's
contradiction of promoting things like homeschooling on one hand and
highly anti libertarian garbage on the other.
Government indoctrination camps or 'schools'  are no doubt an
unmitigated disaster and arguably the consequences  and damage caused by
massive indoctrination during the 20th century are still playing out.
That said, 'schooling' by asshole parents is as bad as government
schooling and government schooling is just an extension and
'standarization' of patenal 'authority'.
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More recently, drugging noncompliant students has joined the mix of
strategies
That's where Huxley got his idea for soma? Oh wait.
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"But what about socialization?"  What indeed - see above for the
kind of
socialization public schools provide.  It took 40 years to build a
climate of fear sufficient to support literally outlawing normal,
organic socialization, i.e. letting your kids run around with the
neighbor kids.
Yep.
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As a result, public school and broadcast media get the
final say as formative social influences on the peer relationships
of
tomorrow's adult consumers - except where parents remove public
school
from the mix and work to replace it with "real world" social
development
opportunities.
Recommended reading, any and everything by this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Taylor_Gatto
:o)
+1 for Gatto.
Germany layin' down the law over families - "illegal" to home school
and European Court of "Human Rights" agrees with German state:
European Court Rules Children Are The Property of
the State, Homeschooling is Absolutely Haram
https://dailystormer.name/european-court-rules-children-are-the-property-of-...
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