Disguised Vivisectee: "He would hurt you. But also we injured him really badly right now and he's not functioning well, I don't quite remember why but could check. He .. has a TV show now, and it's on now.  We're running it, the people involved are really really mean to him at the moment."

 TVDA: "Because they were victims .."

 Disguised Vivisectee: "Yeah."

 TVDA: "That's sad."

 [DV can ask TVDA to do things here, but TVDA still has emotions. DV had to regrow their emotions kind of fake. Not sure whether to open DV processing things, same issue]