emanuel@muli.nl writes: It's boring to read every few month a discussion about something, that happend decades before (oh, yeah. it's much more interesting living in an illusive "here and now" without understanding what's going on because you don't know the past).
It is pointless to talk about the old 60s & 70s and so on. (i guess, for a limited person like you, it is pointless even to learn History or to talk about yesterday - you've got your "today")
I can't believe i read bullshit like these kind of arguments from educated persons. Well, i will try to answer in the most political-correct manner. It's my last comment on the Moon issue, i promise. It is not pointless at all, buddy. Because the past SHAPES the present. There is NO today without yesterday. And there is NO "good" today with "rotten" yesterday (part of which is the moon flam). We are talking here about a lie. A LIE as big as the size of the moon. *And if a state can lie such lies, this kind of state has no right to call itself "democratic/special/good/free/honest" state... or the leader of the human race. Not talking about bombing other states "for the good sake of all the others". Such State should be called with an appropriate name. And have no rights on the world stage, not to mention a Leadership.* It is indeed pointless to talk about the "great new world of today" which you and many others see through pink glasses (and there is no such world today). Because the US fabrication like the "moon" lie is shaping our present (which you love so much), and even more - *it is continuing to happen "HERE & NOW".* Now, the US lie is not about the "moon" but about the bad Assad in Syria, chemicals in Iraq, freedom to Lybian people, Russian invasion to Ukraine...etc. It's all happening right here and right now, buddy (On 20/12/2015). *And will continue to happen until good and smart people will believe in these lies *(this is the cause i write to this list trying to prevent this)*. Or until there will be "sheeple" like you, who live in an illusive "here & now" without caring about their yesterday/the truth.* You missed the whole CORE point. Or misleaded the discussion on purpose. Well, you have failed.