On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:14:13 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" <sdw@lig.net> wrote:
On 9/3/16 1:30 PM, juan wrote:
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:41:52 -0400 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
[1] "The Cypherpunks mailing list is a mailing list for discussing cryptography and its effect on society." incomplete, and you didn't even provide a 'source'
plus, it's obvious that you haven't read the 1992 - ~1998 archives of the list.
Archives? We read it in real time.
Who - the fuck - is we. My message was addressed to grarpamp. I bet he didn't read it in real time.
If it isn't directly about the access to or effects of cryptography and related security practices, it is off topic.
Because an absurdist like you says so.
Early on, the list was largely about making sure that we had unfettered access to encryption and reasoning about the consequences of that. This was important for ecommerce, the Internet in general, the boundaries of the First Amendment, and as the baseline for the rest of the world. All kinds of power grabs were in play, directly from the FBI and others. A weak response might have left us in a position difficult to unravel. Most of that came out OK,
Exactly what a US establishment puppet woud say. So let's see : 1992 : "Computer technology is on the verge of providing the ability for individuals and groups to communicate and interact with each other in a totally anonymous manner. " I wonder if Tim May is embarrased at having mande such a blatantly wrong predicion. " Interactions over networks will be untraceable, via extensive re- routing of encrypted packets and tamper-proof boxes which implement cryptographic protocols with nearly perfect assurance against any tampering." Where are such networks operating? What we do have is completely sabotaged hardware courtesy of Intel Inc, a criminal organization that May had something to do, I believe.
but there are always ongoing concerns and implications.
Oh...
Arguing whether the end of the world is coming or whose fault it is or who is making political or military mistakes is all completely off topic.
Sure. It's especially important that the political 'mistakes' of the american nazis be completely 'ignored'.
sdw