On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:04:28 -0600 "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn@rushpost.com> wrote:
On 03/02/2017 12:46 PM, #$%& wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 00:43:48 -0600 "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn@rushpost.com> wrote:
The "free market" is what is wrong with "health care" in the US. For-profit hospitals have to make money, so they charge outrageous prices.
The guy selling hotdogs in the street has to make money too. He doesn't charge outrageous prices*. OOPS - quinn doesn't have a fucking clue. Who would have thought it?
$500+ for six ounces of saline solution is outrageous by any reasonable standard.
Indeed. I never said othewise. You seem to have missed my point completely. Or you are playing dumb? Here we go again : you claim or 'imply' that health care prices are outrageous because health care is 'for profit'. But that does not follow at all. It is a textbook example of 'non sequitur'. Huge amounts of products and services are offered for profit in the fake free market and yet their prices are not outrageous. So even the fake, limited, for-profit market we have can produce reasonably cheap stuff. What actually follows from the high prices of 'health care' is that 'health care' operates under especially vicious anti-free market policies.
The difference, though, is you usually can compare prices of hot dog street vendors before deciding where to have your lunch. If you have a heart attack, there's no shopping around for the cheapest ER.
You should have done that before having a heart attack. You should also lead a 'health' life of face the consequences. And why am I even replying to such fallacious objection anyway.
This is where the "free market" fails; under a "free market" that heart attack could easily bankrupt you if you are a self-pay customer.
You are talking about the corporatist system your government created. That's not a free market. If you are putting free market in scare quotes, fine. Then you should realize that the way to fix the problem is to get rid of government. In case you never noticed, getting rid of government is somewhat related to 'cypherpunks'.
I believe medical care is a human right.
So what? Well yes, your belief shows that your understanding of rights is limited or non existent..
We've failed at that in the US because even though there exists a nominal public-funded health care system, it's vastly lower quality compared to what even moderately well-off people get.