On 02/22/2017 10:10 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 02:02:50PM -0300, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017, at 5:51 AM, oshwm <oshwm@openmailbox.org> wrote:
On 22 February 2017 08:34:43 GMT+00:00, Eugen Leitl <eugen@leitl.org> wrote:
Who is the list owner these days? If we do not get moderation going I'm out of here.
Bye then :)
Eugen,
oshwm wasn't being offensive or aggressive. He/she (I don't know whether is a girl or a boy, never needed to ask it) was just informing you - in a bit ironic way, I admit - that CP is a list with absolutely NO moderation.
I really made a mistake back then. This list should have never been resurrected in the current form.
Well, I believe that there have often been multiple cypherpunks lists, some moderated and some not, but generally sharing messages. Back in the 90s, I was on a filtered list. The main list was mostly spam. So now, the list is mostly alt-right spam :(
I don't know whether Riad is still the list owner and Greg is only managing it, or whether Greg also became the new list owner (never needed to ask it too, haha), but both are good persons, kind and very, very, very patient. I really appreciate a lot both, and hope
Tolerance and patience will kill even the best list.
:(
nobody annoys them. :)
Take care, be patient and create filters, please.
This is not the way to keep a list healthy and sane. Pretty soon there will be zero traffic passing your filters.
That is a problem. I'm already dropping ~70% of messages, because I filter on both sender and body. So sometimes, I miss interesting stuff when someone sane has hijacked a bullshit thread, but doesn't redact unwanted sender names. That's easy to fix: redact bullshit and bullshit authors :) That harder problem is disagreement over what should be filtered. So the list fragments so much that there's too little activity on any fragment. That's an argument for moderation.
It's allright, I haven't read anything worthwhile here in years.
I hope that you're exaggerating ;)