Well obviously all I've said about Cloudflare is well documented but in terms of sigaint, its your choice but with the documented issues with Cloudflare then I would expect any org who is trying to provide protection against 'dragnet surveillance' would be morally and ethically opposed to services such as Clouflare, wouldn't you?


On 13 September 2016 07:26:26 GMT+01:00, Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 09/13/2016 12:18 AM, oshwm wrote:
 The difference is you have the chinese knocking on your front door and are blocking them whereas you are willingly giving the secrets of your browsing across multiple sites to a single organisation whose CEO has links to the US DoD (arguably more damaging and interventionist than the chinese).
 You will then be profiled and your future actions predicted and even influenced in order to protect the interests of the US MIC.
 Nope, nothing to worry about from Cloudflare at all :D
 
 My advice is: if an organsation touches Cloudflare then you shouldn't touch that organisation.

You're missing the fucking point!

Using Sigaint for email has nothing to do with CloudFlare. You can't
even hit Sigaint webmail, except as a Tor onion service. CloudFlare
doesn't proxy mailserver connections. It's just their fucking website.

Unless you have some actual evidence, you're just blowing smoke ;)

 On 13 September 2016 06:31:37 GMT+01:00, Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
 On 09/12/2016 11:24 PM, juan wrote:
 On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 23:09:55 -0600
 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:



  Ddos
attacks are exactly like terrorism. Carried by the same
  people...at the Department of False Flags.

 It muct be nice to have such simple answers to everything ;)

  You really got me Mirimir. We should thank the US military for
  cloudflare too. The internet really started to work a coupl of
  years ago, thanks of course, to cloudflare. 

 Don't get me wrong. I hate CloudFlare. It's fucking stupid to break
 HTTPS security as MitM in order to protect clueless against DDoS.
 Clever
 adversaries can takeover sites if their interaction with CloudFlare
 isn't adequately secured. And I hate having to deal with their fucking
 CAPTCHAs when I'm using Tor.

 But as much as I hate US military, I don't delude myself that they're
 the only assholes out there. Maybe the most resourceful assholes. And
 the most arrogant assholes. But far from the only ones. It's
the
 fucking
 Chinese that seem to beat at every SSH server that I run :( But then
 you'll say that it's just americunts pretending to be Chinsese ;)

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