On 12/06/2016 03:30 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

Otherwise, you will see a lot of strange and polemic political positions here.  This list is almost a "Political Kama Sutra", with hundreds of different positions and some of them are pretty 'curious' or terribly bizarre, haha!!  ;)


Real world politics is complicated. Some people think I'm a 'jewkristiancommie' (Juan). Some think I'm a conservative. Some think I'm a wild-eyed bomb-throwing anarchist black blockhead... Actually, I'm all those things. It you have some 'party line' you're probably not worth having a convo with. Indoctrinated people are boring.

Classic example. Here's someone I knew in the 60s who went down with Sam Melville and it's said Melvill died in his arms at Attica. A Navy Hardhat diver wh ran the Committee to support the National Liberation Front, and one of Abbie Hoffman's closest friends. Written by a mutual friend.


"October 17, 2010:
In early February 2009, I was skimming the Drudge Report and came across a headline that went something like this: Protester Throws Shoes at Mayor of Ithaca, New York. I immediately knew the shoe-thrower was my friend Robin Palmer. Robin died this August at age 80. He was a born rebel and lived in that skin all his life. He was never without a cause. Usually multiple causes. Which sometimes seemed wildly contradictory.

Robin ran with the radical left Weathermen in the late 1960's and early '70s. He spent several years in Attica prison for trying to bomb a New York City bank. By this millennium he was sort-of right wing. Why “sort-of”? Robin never regretted his terrorist actions or ceased believing the U.S. was a villain in Vietnam. He referred to Ho Chi Minh as “the George Washington of his people” and felt warmly toward his old Weather-friends, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. When candidate Barack Obama's relationship with Ayers in Chicago became a hot topic during the 2008 presidential race, Robin wrote missives to local newspapers lauding Ayers and defending the Weatherman bombings. When election day rolled around Robin didn't vote for Obama or McCain-- he wrote in Bill Ayers.

Flip side: Robin disagreed vehemently with the standard left positions on Cuba and the Mid-East. When Robin denounced Fidel Castro at gatherings of old New Leftists, he was struck from the rad honor roll. (Attica only counted for so much.) His opinions on the Mid-East were equally heretical. Robin was always strongly pro-Israel. Not gung-ho for the PLO. By this millennium he stood 100 percent behind President Bush and the war in Iraq. The shoe hurling incident sprang from that support. The City of Ithaca had passed a resolution condemning the war. By tossing his shoes at the mayor, Robin was tearing a page from the book of Iraqi protesters who did likewise to Bush. Turning it upside down in the process.

That's so Robin.

I first met Robin in New York City in the Spring of 1968..."

More 60s radical history > http://www.qtng.dreamhosters.com//deep_qt/deepqt_robin.html


It's The Cypherpunk's Manifesto:  <http://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/manifesto.html>

"We cannot expect governments, corporations, or other large, faceless organizations to grant us privacy out of their beneficence."

> > please forgive me.
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> Only Jebus can forgive you

There is absolutely nothing to be forgiven, Charles.  You have your personal convictions and you don't need to be an anarchist or the best mega-hyper-wow-master of cryptography to deserve our respect. 

There is no absolute truth or knowledge in the world.  :)