From: Ryan Lackey <rdl@mit.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 00:26:33 +0800 Subject: mailing list archive My hard disk now contains an archive of all the messages (I hope...there are 90k of them) posted on cypherpunks, since the beginning. It's CD-ROM sized; I'm building a glimpse index of them right now and will put them up on the web (tentatively somewhere on http://sof.mit.edu/) soon. I'll also be happy to copy them onto particular media (tape, cd, etc.) if I have access to the drive, for cost + a meager amount to make it worth the effort. I think getting list archives distributed to as many people as possible would be a good thing -- hopefully a recursive auction market will start and people will leave me alone after a while. I'm doing this because there isn't a decent searchable index anywhere that I've found, and it would be a nice thing to have, and I don't think the time is too far off when people will try to eliminate the list. I've been using the archive of cpunks as my test data set in writing Eternity DDS -- I thought it was vaguely poetic, in a way. ----- From: Ryan Lackey <rdl@mit.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 02:38:02 +0800 Subject: Re: mailing list archive Doh -- I thought my dataset included everything, but it instead just covers every article I can think of between:
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 93 22:53:39 BST From: whitaker@eternity.demon.co.uk (Russell E. Whitaker) Reply-To: whitaker@eternity.demon.co.uk To: cypherpunks@toad.com Cc: whitaker@eternity.demon.co.uk
and the present. I'm also feeling tempted to incorporate the archives of some of the offshoot mailing lists, like coderpunks, etc. Does anyone know of a good source for the messages before that one? How many were there, approximately? If there are a bunch of them and you can merge them with mine, I'll be happy to send you a cd of the result. If enough people want to buy CDs of the data, I'll set up an order page, establish pricing, etc. Right now, for me to make a CD requires buying media and doing it at the media lab, unless I buy a drive, so the cost is somewhat dependent upon how many people are interested. If someone wants to use corporate or government money to overpay for a cd so I can buy a cd-r writer and make it cheaper for everyone else, I'll think fondly of whatever organization you represent :) Utterly ignoring the copyright issues in the interest of getting wide dispersal, especially since it's unlikely anyone cares since no one will get rich selling cypherpunks cd-roms, Ryan (the last time I wished for something in parenthetical postscript it worked. Wish granting service, will you please make the people of the world clueful enough to replace governmental/military force with cryptography? Or convince one of my professors that they should sign a blank thesis?) -- Ryan Lackey rdl@mit.edu http://mit.edu/rdl/ ---- From: Ryan Lackey <rdl@mit.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:00:41 +0800 Subject: Re: technical issues of the list Tim May wrote:
(There is, by the way, a project simmering along to put the 5 years of Cypherpunks traffic on a Web site...)
I have everything but the first 8 months or so of traffic in the process of going up on the web soon. (Stupid deadline appeared which put this off for a few hours). If the first 8 months were in someplace I could find them, then there would be a nice complete archive no longer simmering, but up on the web, ready for people to mirror. Dr. Dobbs' Journal sells a Cryptography CD-ROM with AC v 2, etc. on it for $99, and combined with a Cypherpunks CD-ROM containing list archives of cypherpunks, coderpunks, cryptography@c2.org, and maybe some other stuff for $50 or so, there would be 2-cd solution. I'm pretty sure all 5 years fit on one cd-rom -- I've been using 4 years as an eternity dds dataset, along with some other stuff, and I think it is less than 500mb, although one of the problems with my current eternity file system under linux is that there is no way of telling how big a directory is (yay VFS kludges). -- Ryan Lackey rdl@mit.edu http://mit.edu/rdl/