On Thursday, March 22, 2018, 5:40:34 PM PDT, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 19:41:41 -0400 Marina Brown <catskillmarina@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry - i thought that was you were saying. It is quite clear what Jim was saying. It's kinda dumb to quote him again, but here it goes. Of course one can look at the 1 day old whole message which is a typical anti-immigration right-wing rant.
"When I suggest that illegal re-entry is a 'victimless crime', that does not mean that there are not other crimes which illegal re-entry employs (such as people-smuggling) and further, crimes that it enables: Any crime subsequently committed by a person who is illegally present in America. Kate Steinle's case in San Francisco is an excellent example of this. These crimes are ENABLED because the illegal alien is in America. If he is out of America, he might still commit crimes, but they would be crimes that some other government would have to deal with. Also, keep in mind that the U.S. government doesn't need to actually convict these people of some crime, in order to expel them. Put simply, if the government had actually been enforcing immigration law for the last 30+ years, there might easily be a half-million illegals in America, rather that what I suspect to be, 20 million. (the figures bandied commonly about, 11-12 million are nonsense.) So, if ICE actually did its job, much of the crime associated with illegal aliens simply wouldn't occur. " * 'illegal' re-entry 'enables' crimes. * person who is 'illegally' present in America * crimes are ENABLED because the 'illegal' alien is in America * government doesn't need to convict...people...in order to expel them. "if the government had actually been enforcing immigration law for the last 30+ years, there might easily be a half-million illegals in America, rather that what I suspect to be, 20 million" that ^^^^^ sounds like a clear 'complaint' doesnt it. Notice also the unfounded assertion, typical of propaganda, about the numbers, inflated to 20 millions. And the punch line, if "ICE actually did its job" those dirty foreign 'criminals' wouldn't commit the 'crimes' they allegedly commit in AMERIKKKA. [end of quote] I suppose I should have been anal, and said, "if ICE actually did the job it claims to be its own..." Jim Bell