-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is this a victory? Has anything been learned from the process? We know that regime changes are meaningless if the means of governance are not also reformed. In July of 2013 JFC Morfin registered an appeal [1] to the IAB (IETF governing body). He asked the IAB to consider how the concept of a protocol should account for social and ethical requirements. The IAB's response [2] was terse. It showed that these governing bodies lack the means and will to consider how the tools they develop effect people. We sit in a time where the architect of good citizenry is being increasingly dictated by undemocratic institutions. We are quickly trading space beholden to social contracts of the commons for those built by neo-liberal corporations. The ethics of "the protocol" is dictated by whichever company provides the most coffee and cake for the next workgroup meeting. I think the argument of "GeoIP as a threat to democracy" [3] provides an example rhetoric illustrating why concern for this is so important and why perhaps a witch hunt within the IETF is in order. 1. http://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2013/07/appeal-morfin-2013-07-08.p... 2. https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-announce/current/msg11697.html 3. https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2014-July/005037.html On 23/10/2014 20:30, odinn wrote:
As a (hopefully final) note to this particular issue, please note the resolution at:
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25839#c64
The NSA co-chair is resigning, and it appears the Working Groups are moving ahead without the involvement of that co-chair, for example:
(see comments 61 and 62 at)
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25618#c61
Cheers,
-Odinn
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