> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What would help comfort these fears? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have wrong thoughts sometimes. I think todo lists are still needed, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but maybe our world is so capable that they aren't. Maybe it's more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > important why I have wrong thoughts. Although there are a handful of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > explanations, it's concerning that something mysterious may have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stimulated the wrong thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What seems more concerning is maybe that acting on that isn't happening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl's todo list (don't expect these things to happen!): > > > > > > > > > > > > > - [ ] make highly secure shielded rooms accessible to everyone including him > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to be safe from where-ever our "behavior modification built" > > > > > > > > > > > > habits came from. > > > > > > > > > > > > This means getting off the internet. Highly advanced digital security > > > > > > > > > > > > is much better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - [ ] make treatment for severe abuse symptoms accessible to everyone > > > > > > > > > > > > > including him > > > > > > > > > > > > > - [... etc, tech-and-nature-focused > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But talking about that appropriately might not have been reaching > > > > > > > > > > > > Todo. We kept on building and researching ... but need to protect > > > > > > > > > > > > ourself better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karl, because somebody is still actively harming you, whatever and > > > > > > > > > > > regardless of what you do, we need a todo list that prioritizes making > > > > > > > > > > > us personally more and more safe from things that would try to change > > > > > > > > > > > our decisions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also protecting your family. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This has been a conflict for a long time but we've maybe finally > > > > > > > > > learned enough about it to sort a little bit of it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to go offline, not use devices, not interact with people who > > > > > > > > > use devices, etc. Does it not work? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [demands don't quite work ... options work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm of course okay with things that are good ideas. I was prioritizing > > > > > > > > myself or strangers because I don't have a solution that reaches > > > > > > > > safety. One of the influences could be that people I communicate with > > > > > > > > are influenced to resist what I recommend. If you were on board with > > > > > > > > recommending it, it would be clearer, it could work better. We'd have > > > > > > > > to be a little careful. It's hard to relate about the problems > > > > > > > > accurately; my strategy was instead to retain strategies that could > > > > > > > > reduce them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure how to influence my family to get offline and mistrust > > > > > > > strangers and other unplanned events (from being influenced to express > > > > > > > in harsh ways). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But maybe we could put together a little educational whizzick that > > > > > > > would help with that. > > > > > > > > > > > > [hard. so, i might recommend we move into a cave in radio quiet zone. > > > > > > because we don't understand the problem and it offers a reasonable > > > > > > degree of information isolation. but i formed my recommendations not > > > > > > planning for my family who are used to industry and > > > > > > telecommunications. honestly, the todo list is very corrupt. but it's > > > > > > nice to feel better a little > > > > > > > > > > the problem is that i don't know what works, and when working with > > > > > others we trigger each other. recent learning implies most people have > > > > > programmed alters, not built from trauma but rather from other things > > > > > we'd have to approach that situation very carefully, like group-DID, > > > > > to work together with full rationality > > > > > but th > > > > > > > > in the end, though, i see that something has influenced my choices, > > > > and that's maybe what's important. > > > > > > we would want to be separate from events that could be orchestrated by > > > AI or criminal agencies/groups > > > i wanted to invest in shielding, backed by the strange lack of it and > > > the strange difficulty pursuing and providing it, but maybe it is less > > > important than general isolation. people who have my extreme > > > experiences appreciate shielding because it blocks invisible > > > influences. > > > > we (a group of humans) could likely then have the problem of > > introjects that persist the harm even though we are separated from it.
clarifying that an introject is a part of a human mind that acts as if an extreme experience were continuing forever. it would pretend to be an abuser for example. similar to a flashback.
> > this is best addressed by a specialist. but maybe if we made an > > education we could clarify around pooling funds to pay one or more > > specialists :s > > it is likely also possible to recover from these through dedicated > independent study. it's just very hard for me to engage scheduled > behavior.
the influences have spent a lot of energy bringing our family together but we don't know each other well, we don't have shared vocabular to connect around these things. we didn't listen to or notice each other much. we love each other though
i'm gravely depressed, so the cheer is good. it helps more than my worries do.
it's nice to put a label on 'todo' that says "we need to do the right thing to do"; that is the reason indeed for todo
something that might help would be if really impactful shares were ok i'm a different person, when i meet people we both learn things that are new to us so when i meet people that i might work well with there can be an impact but it takes me a long time to get to know people. i have to engage them for a long time to connect with them.
so basically we need the best things that would go on todo lists, to help defend them, i think :) like, if i were in the radio quiet zone again, then i'd have fewer influences, and my impact would be smaller, and there'd be less feedback from it
so maybe the order of things on those lists wasn't ideal like, before making a secure device, i need one. it sounds impossible, but it's not. it means if you're going to secure a device, plan offline. one of my concerns is talking to people. whenever i tell somebody something i abandon what i said. it could be helpful to have some way to just chat about stuff that is actually safe, maybe that means telling them not to share it ... ohh but they change their online behavior as a result of it. right so offline community so much better. uhhh it sounds like mostly we're using this experience to update what might go on a todo list if i actually made one