From: Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net>
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 03:35:00AM +0000, jim bell wrote:

> Libertarians,
> in America, have to operate within the existing system.

No, they have to start from the existing system, and existing programmed
humans, when considering appropriate future changes and the propaganda
required to get those "existing programmed humans" to that future.
(This is probably what you meant - "to operate" didn't sound right to
me.)

Yes, that's what I meant.  It's unfair, as Razer did, to somehow blame libertarians for the state of the American political system.  We can try to change it, and we do, but that takes time.  

                   Jim Bell