On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 07:54:06PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 07:48:29 +1000 jamesd@echeque.com wrote:
On 2020-10-31 06:23, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 15:01:14 -0400 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
"Open borders to all, teach Islam in schools -- Joe Biden"
of course open borders (no state borders) is one of the most basic libertarian positions.
Notice that BatSoup, though theoretically opposed to the security agencies spying on us, demonizes Snowden,
I don't demonize snowden, I simply see him as an 'ex' US military criminal, 'ex' CIA criminal and 'ex' NSA criminal. Likewise, I see his 'revelations' as barely revealing anything new and having caused little to no harm to his government. Something that snowden himself keeps repeating.
Snowden wants to return to America. It's true that what he did appears to have damaged him more than the Empire. We ought allow people to change - especially when it is in a positive direction, and so "forever naming" someone's negative past, though factual, may reduce support for their positive change. There is a balance where sometimes "acknowledgement" of someone's positives, -especially- if these positives are in the face of a negative past, may help sustain those positives - yes, the man that requires external acks has a bit to learn but hey, when trying to improve our shared world, we work with what we got, right?
fails to mention that security agencies, trained and organized to spread disinformation that overthrows foreign governments, are industriously spreading disinformation to overthrow the American government and prevent democracy.
you're saying that the CIA (that is the US govt) is trying to overthrow the US govt? The US govt is trying to overthrow itself? Sounds confused...
prevent democracy.
and that last bit...WUT? Now you're a 'democrat'? I thought you hated democrats? By definition right wingers are pro-monarchy and anti-democracy. I guess you're a lefty now?