On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 19:58:52 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 12/11/2016 07:28 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
On 12/11/2016 08:18 PM, Mirimir wrote:
... the list as a whole is devalued by the continued lack of moderation. This is not whitesupremistneonazipunks, this is cypherpunks. I am not challenging his freedom of speech, but this is not the forum for that. It would be perfectly on-topic for a neo-nazi or KKK list. That is not this list!
I get your concern. Naive users, coming across these messages through search sites, might get a bad impression. But please consider that freedom and autonomy are key cypherpunk values.
It's quite funny that you talk to quinn as if he wasn't the biggest troll on the list. He doesn't subscribe to any cypherpunk value and his constant calls for moderation are 1000% pure trolling.
Along with technical competence. So the best outcome is helping people manage unmoderated lists on their own, without reliance on centralized control.
Also, please consider that causing grief is the key goal for trolls. And consider how forcing an ideologically unmoderated list to moderate itself would be _such_ a fucking win for Z_n. No?
No, it would be a fucking win for the totalitarian scumbag known as shawn quinn.