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   1. FBI Has Warned Agents It Believes Hackers Stole Their Call Logs
      (Gunnar Larson)
   2. Rio Tinto, Glencore Discuss Potential Combination (Gunnar Larson)
   3. Re: [ot][spam]gpt-4 completionsBB (karl3@writeme.com)


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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 15:13:17 -0500
From: Gunnar Larson <g@xny.io>
Subject: FBI Has Warned Agents It Believes Hackers Stole Their Call
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----- Bureau warned breach could expose informants, document shows

----- Hackers stole six months of customer text, call logs from AT&T

FBI Has Warned Agents It Believes Hackers Stole Their Call Logs
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-16/fbi-has-warned-agents-it-believes-hackers-stole-their-call-logs


FBI leaders have warned that they believe hackers who broke into AT&T
Inc.’s system last year stole months of their agents’ call and text logs,
setting off a race within the bureau to protect the identities of
confidential informants, a document reviewed by Bloomberg News shows.
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Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 15:13:55 -0500
From: Gunnar Larson <g@xny.io>
Subject: Rio Tinto, Glencore Discuss Potential Combination
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Rio Tinto, Glencore Discuss Potential Combination
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-16/rio-tinto-glencore-are-said-to-discuss-potential-combination


Rio Tinto Group and Glencore Plc have been discussing combining their
businesses, according to people familiar with the matter, in what could
result in the mining industry’s largest-ever deal.
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Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2025 05:24:06 -0000
From: karl3@writeme.com
Subject: Re: [ot][spam]gpt-4 completionsBB
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help me learn neuropsychological terms and analyses. please give short replies, i only want to learn a little from each reply. is there a term for when somebody tries to move their body, it moves in the opposite direction?
ChatGPT said:
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Yes, that's called alien hand syndrome. It's a rare condition where a person’s hand (or other part of the body) seems to act on its own, often moving in the opposite direction of the person’s intentions. It’s usually due to damage in the brain, often affecting the corpus callosum or frontal lobes.


You said:
I was unaware of that syndrome, but I was thinking of another one, related to larger motor choices of the body.
ChatGPT said:
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Ah, you might be thinking of contralateral hemiparesis or hemiplegia. In this condition, damage to one side of the brain (usually the motor cortex or pathways) causes weakness or paralysis on the opposite side of the body. So, if a person tries to move one side, it may involuntarily move in the opposite direction or fail to move properly.

Does that sound closer?


You said:
That's not it either.
ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
Got it! You might be referring to mirror movement disorder. This is when intentional movements of one side of the body cause involuntary movements on the opposite side, such as when trying to move a hand and the other hand mimics the movement or moves in the opposite direction. It's typically seen in conditions like developmental mirror movements or in certain neurological disorders.


You said:
What are the categories of these terms?
ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
Neuropsychological terms can generally be categorized into a few broad groups:

Motor Disorders – These involve impairments or abnormalities in movement, like apraxia (difficulty planning and executing voluntary movements) or dyskinesia (involuntary movements).

Cognitive Disorders – These affect thinking, memory, attention, and problem-solving, such as amnesia (memory loss) or dementia (decline in cognitive function).

Perceptual Disorders – These involve disruptions in sensory perception, such as agnosia (inability to recognize objects or faces) or hallucinations.

Emotional and Behavioral Disorders – These include conditions like anxiety, depression, or personality disorders that arise from brain function changes.

Neurological Syndromes – These are clusters of symptoms that arise from specific brain regions being damaged or dysfunctional, like Parkinson’s disease or hemispatial neglect.

Language Disorders – These affect communication, such as aphasia (language impairment) or dyslexia (reading disorder).

Would you like to explore a particular category in more detail?


You said:
Is there a naming system that is not focused on injury but rather function?
ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
Yes, there are naming systems that focus on function rather than injury. One key framework is the functional neuropsychological classification. This system groups conditions based on specific cognitive, motor, or perceptual functions rather than the underlying cause or injury. Examples include:

Cognitive Functions – Conditions related to memory, attention, executive function, etc.

Memory disorders (e.g., prospective memory loss), attention deficits (e.g., selective attention impairment), or executive dysfunction.
Motor Functions – Focuses on movement capabilities, like:

Akinetic mutism (lack of movement and speech despite intact motor pathways).
Dyspraxia (difficulty with motor planning and coordination).
Perceptual Functions – Disorders related to perception of sensory input.

Visual agnosia (inability to recognize objects despite intact vision).
Anosognosia (lack of awareness of a deficit).
This functional approach is often used in cognitive rehabilitation and therapy to address specific deficits without necessarily focusing on the cause (e.g., brain injury vs. developmental disorder).


You said:
I'm interested in disorders that relate to the opposite happening from the intension. Somebody I met with dyskinesia described this a little bit.
ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
Ah, I see! You're referring to disorders where there's an involuntary movement opposite to the person's intention. This phenomenon is typically linked to dyskinesia or other motor control disorders, and a few specific terms apply:

Dyskinesia – Involuntary, erratic movements that can be the opposite of a person’s intended action. This is common in Parkinson's disease or as a side effect of certain medications (like antipsychotics).

Paradoxical Movements – This term refers to situations where a person’s body moves in the opposite direction of their intended action. It can happen in conditions affecting the basal ganglia or cerebellum, where motor planning and execution go awry.

Co-contraction – This occurs when muscles that should not contract together (e.g., opposing muscles) do so, leading to abnormal, counteracting movements. This is often seen in neurological conditions like cerebral palsy or dystonia.

Dystonia – A movement disorder where muscles contract uncontrollably, often resulting in abnormal postures or movements. Sometimes these movements can appear as if they are the opposite of the intended action.

These disorders can cause a person to attempt one action but instead experience movements that are opposite or interfere with their goal.


You said:
But the other things you mentioned could also make opposite motions? Are there other parts of the human system that can experience a problem where the opposite happens as what should?
ChatGPT said:
ChatGPT
Yes, you're right—other conditions like dystonia, dyskinesia, and co-contraction can also lead to opposite or conflicting movements. But when you're thinking more broadly about the body, other systems can also contribute to this paradoxical situation where the opposite happens:

Sensory-Motor Integration Failures – The brain integrates sensory input with motor planning to execute smooth, intentional movements. If this integration is disrupted (e.g., by somatosensory deficits or sensory ataxia), a person might attempt to move in one direction, but the body misinterprets or "misguides" the movement, causing the opposite action.

Cerebellar Dysfunction – The cerebellum is crucial for coordinating voluntary movements and maintaining balance. If there's a problem here (as in cerebellar ataxia), movements may become jerky, uncoordinated, or even opposite to what is intended due to poor motor feedback and error correction.

Basal Ganglia Dysfunction – The basal ganglia, involved in regulating smooth, purposeful movement, can produce the opposite of intended actions in conditions like Parkinson's disease or Huntington's disease. This is because of impaired signal processing in these brain areas, leading to involuntary movements that contradict the intention.

Motor Planning and Execution (Apraxia) – In apraxia (especially ideomotor apraxia), the brain struggles with the "how-to" of performing an action, even though the intention is clear. A person might try to perform one action (like reaching for an object), but the brain sends conflicting or opposite motor commands, resulting in unintended movements.

Spinal Cord Reflexes – In some cases, the spinal cord’s reflexive actions can override conscious control, causing muscles to contract in opposition to voluntary movement. This can happen due to abnormal reflex activity in conditions like spinal cord injury or spinal dystonia.

In essence, multiple areas of the brain and nervous system contribute to coordinated movement, and when something goes wrong at any of these stages—whether in the cerebellum, basal ganglia, spinal cord, or sensory processing areas—it can lead to movements that are opposite to the intended action.

Does that clarify the broader system of potential causes?







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