5:55 PM, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
... the authoritarians hang out on cryptography@metzdowd.com
yeah- heard it through the wire its a rough crowd over there... not worth being stabbed by a ham while walking down the street also, best to avoid the pyre if at all possible, re: fool/fuel use has me wondering about the two crypto lists in conjunction, if a census has been conducted or online survey for background in that, seemingly there are two or three main areas i am guessing for crypto backgrounds-- those from the military, those from academia, mathematics and-or linguistics, & those from computers/webdev for instance, percentage of ham operators in given age ranges how many had a parent with electronics or engineering background how many approached via software development online or pre-internet it would be interesting to know how the list populations are different e.g. perhaps older, military trained crypto at the cryptography-list more computer-based, software development crypto at cypherpunks also in this same regard; how many learned electronics during era of crystal radio building etc. or other DIY independent exploration or homebrew computing or are now involved in microcontrollers today, etc. and in this same way it would be interesting if more projects/classes/ education could occur for electromagnetic literacy in electronics today as a foundation for both knowledge and skills yet also experimentation, prototyping, new code, programming, proof-of-concept crypto systems that move from ideas into hardware and software models, vice-versa