can i confirm that this is the Venona archive merged with the 2000-2016 archive from this post: https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-July/042515.html i.e. that we don't have a new, overlapping archive of the 90s period? I'm assuming venona is still the only game in town for the 90s period. On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:54, Tom Busby <tom@busby.ninja> wrote:
oh fantastic, thank you very much. looks great.
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 04:00, Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> wrote:
Dear Tom,
You might be interested to see that I recently merged the archives. (I am the current list operator.) You can find it browsable and a few other formats. This spans September 1992-July 2013 in the cypherpunks-legacy collection.
The current (ongoing) list is in the main cypherpunks collection, from 2013-present. They are both here:
https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo
Announcement/description:
https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2019-December/078230.html
Best, Greg
I'm just a guy with a website. Believe me, it saddens me that so much is lost, that's why I originally started trying to piece it all together, but my leads ran cold, and if you go look at the commit logs for crypto anarchy.wiki you'll see how little time I've had to work on it lately.
In terms of whether this is deliberate forgery or just lost data, I have no way of finding out because I don't have other copies of the archive to compare with. That's the only way to do it. And even then I can only detect tampering, not innocent loss of data. I was under ten years old during
period so I'm flying blind in terms of what it should look like.
I'm not a player in this drama, I'm just a guy who is mirroring what's available so that isn't lost too.
I simply don't have the time to help you at the moment. I have too many other commitments. I haven't even found time to merge the 1999-onwards archive.
If you find a lead on any of it, let me know. As far as I can tell, Ryan Lackey is the only one who can help you. This archive originates on Venona. That I'm pretty sure about. If he won't respond to you, I don't know what can be done. I really hope someone else finds an archive of this era, because it's the most important era for sure.
But other than that, please bear in mind that I'm on your side. We both have the same goal: a complete, accurate archive. I've done what I can so far. I won't have time to work on this actively in the near future.
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, 20:27 jim bell, <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 3, 2020, 02:16:28 AM PST, Tom Busby <tom@busby.ninja> wrote:
And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't seem to care
It's not that I don't care, I just don't know what I can do about it. This appears to be the only copy of the archive available.
If anyone else has a more complete archive, send it to me and I'll merge it.
You are thinking solely in terms of correcting the archive. That's a limited view. I'm thinking of finding out who is responsible for the well-planned omissions in the archive. From where was the data obtained? When was the faking of the data done? Who did it? Why? Who had control of the Cypherpunks list during the 1995-2003 time
On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 09:41:57PM +0100, Tom Busby wrote: this frame?
Was the data stored elsewhere, such as the Wayback Machine?
Jim Bell
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 08:25, jim bell <jdb10987@yahoo.com> wrote:
Jeffrey Epstein: Surveillance Video From First Suicide Attempt Missinghttps:// www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jeffrey-epstein-surveillance-video-first-184510141.html
Jim Bell's comment:
Missing, just like a few thousand postings to me, from me, about me, and any mentioning Assassination Politics in the 1995 Cypherpunks archive.
And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't seem to care. Neither does Brian Merchant nor Will Stephenson.
Concealing the past by erasing the evidence is an old story.