I don't get why applebaum does not consider making a fork himself, when there is so much disillusionment around tor?<br /><br />7:33 AM, August 22, 2016, Jester &lt;jester@cock.li&gt;:<br /><blockquote>Razer:<br /><br /><blockquote> Me: "Jake was taxing them about flawed protocol? Really!"<br /><br /> The other: "No, no directly - he was saying that protocol hardening is<br /> what as needed, but the USG funders want browser improvements. UX over<br /> substance.<br /></blockquote><br />22:30 &lt; mikeperry&gt; I have no doubt that the CIA would find Tor useful,<br />and its<br />funding would not comrpromise us, but as I said then, the optics would be so<br />bad that the et improvement to Tor from such funding would not be worth<br />the bad<br />PR<br />22:31 &lt; ioerror&gt; mikeperry: Funding does compromise us<br />22:31 &lt; ioerror&gt; I am clear on that now.<br />22:31 &lt; ioerror&gt; Tor is compromised.<br />22:31 &lt; ioerror&gt; When we are paid to work on a browser rather than anonymity<br />improvements of Tor HS, we are co-opted<br />22:31 &lt; ioerror&gt; It is a faustian pact<br />22:32 &lt; ioerror&gt; When we set the road map and found funders to fund us,<br />it was<br />different<br />22:32 &lt; ioerror&gt; we haven't done that for a long time<br />22:32 &lt; ioerror&gt; The money has corrupted us<br />22:32 &lt; ioerror&gt; And now, we're hoping for influence<br /><br />Full chat log: https://archive.is/2geXW<br /><br /></blockquote><br /><br />-- <br />You’re not from the Castle, you’re not from the village, you are nothing. Unfortunately, though, you are something, a stranger.