-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 my point being that without a publicly available global network then backdooring IC's may not have been something they were interested in :) But i guess they could still have seen some value in doing this and having modems phone home. On 30 July 2015 09:39:08 BST, Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
would a pre-internet era set of IC's and components kick-start the
On 07/30/2015 02:32 AM, oshwm wrote: process a little without losing too much trust?
Use slow old IC's in parallel to gain something usable :)
There was NSA before Internet ;)
On 30 July 2015 09:22:33 BST, Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 07/30/2015 01:52 AM, grarpamp wrote:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:11 AM, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
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then it is not possible to build a trusted CPU.
You watch while... I collect wood and ore and smelt into axe, you trust axe. I split tree and assemble hut, you trust hut. I put wheel in water and make mill, you trust flour. I give you magical computer before I make abacus, you throw in river and order me make abacus first. Eventually trusted CPU is made.
Woah! How many years to build the tool chain to a trusted CPU?
Also, how many people? And how to trust them? One bad apple, you know.
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