On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 22:07:10 +0000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
I like your [Rayzer's] .sig, but perhaps you haven't figured out, riseup.net is the establishment's false opposition - "Occupy" bullshit and all that, used to capture as much rebellious protest energy as possible, channeling that into the most irrelevant non-directions of ephemeral bullshit we've ever seen.
I noticed a couple of weird things about riseup.net. First thing is that there is a lot (relatively speaking) of messages from riseup addresses in the "tor-talk" mailing list. One would naively expect that 'progressive 'anarcho' commies would have nothing to do with the pentagon's fake anonimity network...yet they do. Also, taking into account what kind of joke 'cybersecurity' is, it doesn't look like a terribly good idea to use a centralized service like riseup. Even if we naively assume that riseup owners are 'honest'(...), their servers remain an 'interesting' target and will be treated accordingly.
Oh yes, the occasional "petition" that begs the government for some scrap of bread.
Here in Australia, it became clear at some point that Riseup.net was being driven by Labour ("Democracks"), but for those who haven't yet figured out the whois command, riseup.net is a product of a Washingtun, Ewe Ess Eh? company called Riseup Networks.
wikipedia's article is very very short, which is weird, especially considering the ideological overlap between both organizations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riseup
Had potential. If it weren't the establishment.
If you don't own it, you don't control it.
If you don't control it, it may be used against you.
If you can't trust those who DO control it, it WILL be used against you.
Not a difficult principle...
Yep...