| > Even if the right to privacy was recognized, it would only apply to | > government. Corporate would be free to spy on us and then sell it to | > the government. | | this, in the traditional sense, is what John calls a "COMSEC cover-up": | http://cryptome.org/2013/10/nsa-hysteria-coverup.htm | | meaning that the continual, most significant, and most likely to be | abused and widely are commercial services and collaborations and | products,... Exactly correct. 90+% of US critical infrastructure is in private hands. With each passing day Internet-dependent services become more essential to what I will for the moment call "normal life." The USG's response to the growing pervasiveness of Internet services held in private hands is deputize the owners of those services against their will. The entire imbroglio around ISPs, the NSA, and so forth and so on comes down to that -- if the government does not itself own the critical infrastructure, those that do own it can and will be compelled to become government agents. In the 21st century, we have a physical army of volunteers but a digital army of conscripts. --dan http://geer.tinho.net/geer.uncc.9x13.txt