7 Sep
2016
7 Sep
'16
3:29 a.m.
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:08:00 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
As Juan (and others) has so eloquently pointed out so many times, we do not have democracy, and we have never seen democracy.
I don't think I said that. We certainly have democracy if we go by common definitions of democracy. What we never had is a liberal system where people's rights are respected. Or we never had a system based on individual self-government. But I don't think that's usually called democracy.