some people in law enforcement are very helpful. e.g. human trafficking rescuers generally have contacts in law enforcement. i hear (and have experienced) that it can also be very dangerous to work with law enforcement. here is quote from notes thought slightly on: re support workers ignoring concern for example, amazon was hiding products from us we took a screenshot, but screenshot would not reach support worker when problem described they said could not help but could "leave window open for somebody else to find". stuff like that is all around us but we get terrified and amnesiatic. very hard to collect. have also experienced ssl certificates that have changed, and websites that look different from different machines.