On 10/17/2017 09:25 PM, juan wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2017 16:39:59 -0400 John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
sooo, Your 'source' is your government. Cute!
Now let's assume all the pentagon-greencorp enviro propaganda ia true. What are the green saviors of the earth doing then? Apart from subsidizing corrupt 'green' corporations, are they doing anything else?
And if they are not doing anything else, does that mean the world is going to end...when? 5 years? 10? 20? Or what.
The world "as we know it" has in effect already ended; the process passed a tipping point about 20 years ago and is now self driving, without any human input needed - largely due to Arctic methane discharges and ocean acidification. As the process continues, desertification will also become a direct contributing factor. We can make this situation worse - that is, hitting harder, faster, and taking longer to stabilize at a "new normal." We can make it better - delay the onset of radical weather changes, reduce the severity of peak global temperatures, etc. But we can not stop global warming or prevent the attendant human population crash, and to date our governments and the industries that own them are fully committed to the worst case scenario. The "Paris Accords" and other mitigation programs sanctioned by our rulers are laughable cosmetic measures, even with strict worldwide adherence - which ain't gonna happen. How do I know this crap? Because I have been watching developments in relevant fields for nearly 40 years, and over the last decade my own projections have consistently beaten those of professionals who "dare not risk" being called alarmist or radical. Recently a few have come out of the lab closet, so to speak, and more will follow: 20+ years too late to make a damn bit of difference, even IF our captains of industry would have listened to them. The good news: Anarchists, rejoice! The survivors will have nothing to lose but their chains! The mega-State and massively concentrated wealth and power making anything like self rule or an even break impossible are on the way out. The last generation that will remember our present way of life as "normal" has already been born. If the humans manage to catch a few lucky breaks, a "better" world than our own fictional Good Old Days could arrive as early as 2200, and is likely to last FAR longer than the Industrial Age: The means of repeating the same mistakes will not exist. :o)