On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 22:09:00 +0000 Hollow Domer <shediedfrombeingtoof@redchan.it> wrote:
So ideas are not the property of someone, unless it is a new idea,
not what I said. I don't think ideas are property, full stop. I was just following some false premise of yours to some stupid & false conclusion.
then it belongs to all those who thought before it, because it's 99.99999999% theirs.
Do you even read before you post ?
Maybe my english was worse than usual, but still, that's not what I meant.
privilege: a non-right
So we are in agreement.
I don't know. So you finally learned what privilege and statism entail?
copyright and patents
The legal terms are what we disagree on.
Looks like we disagree on the legal concepts, starting with the legal concept of 'state' from which 'state granted' stuff comes...
The right to ownership is not. I concede to your argument against my defense of laws to defend things, seeable or not.
I'm not sure what you mean with "defense of laws to defend things" but meh...
And you are accusing me of doing what *you* do? please.
If you think that the right to ownership can only be granted by others,
No. As a matter of fact, personal rights don't need to be granted by others. They are inherent to persons. What I am saying is that your goddammed intellectual 'property' is NOT A RIGHT. It's something the state mafia made up, and it's 'technically' called a 'privilege' 'granted' by the 'state'. Just like if some fucking puritan psychos declare that you have to be 21 years old to drink, then 'underage drinking' is a 'crime' only in the minds of fucking puritan psychos, but it is not a real crime. Just like 'intellectual property' is not real property.
which is what you argue when you say that the right to copy can only be granted as a privilege by some external authority.
Not what I said. I either wasn't clear enough or you are misreading me (on purpose).
the right to copy can only be granted as a privilege
the right to copy doesn't belong only to the author. ANYBODY can rightfully copy anything. As long they have enough paper and pencil at least. On the other hand, preventing people from copying whatever the fuck they want to copy, and only allowing some people ('copyright/patent holders') to copy, means granting privileges to 'copyright holders' and violating the rights of the rest of the world. Is that now clear enough?
at some point the cost of writing a full counterargument to a piece of bullshit is too high.
Budget limits. Request more money for the next fiscal quarter, fbianon.
that would be you?
United States of America was founded in 1776 as a slave society/concentration camp?
The United States is “a farce controlled by dirty, hook-nosed, circumcised Jew bastards". -Bobby Fischer
Prove Jews didn't own all the slave ships. Prove Jews didn't own most of the slaves.
I'm sure some did. What about you linking some data?
Prove slavery isn't a semitic tradition.
It is. Why would I want to prove that it isn't? Also, it's not just semitic....
Pro-tip: **You can't.**
pro tip, I never ever said "slavey is not a semitic tradition". What I said is that the american slave society was founded by anglo-european-western pieces of shit. Which is a fact that prolly even american schoolboys know. I of course can add that your fucking slave society honored both your WESTERN slave traditions and the JOO slave traditions. And the jew-kristian 'mixed' slave tradition that westerners love so much.
national borders
I never argued for "national" borders.
You compared legitimate personal 'borders' or boundaries to the borders of nation states. False analogy. Then you added this piece of nonsense "These "imaginary" lines often exist in the form of rivers and oceans." which both John N. and I refuted. So regardless of you admiting that you argued for national borders or not, all you said about them is wrong.
I tried to overstand your position on what defines a border and how these "imaginary" lines, physical or not, differ from those drawn in sovereignty of one's body ?
You offered nothing but "not valid". Just like your "bullshit" argument; why ?
cheaters
I do not cheat, sir. How dare you. =)