On 04/07/2015 06:55 PM, Cari Machet wrote:
> here:
> https://extremeliberal.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/glenn-greenwald-supported-president-bush-as-he-signed-the-patriot-act/
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> he actually uses the fucking word 'vengeance' ... fuck

Yes, he does. But he says that about invading _Afghanistan_, not Iraq.
He says that he took W's word on Iraq. That does not reflect well on
him, and I'm disappointed that he hasn't acknowledged his error. But so
it goes.

It it were vengeance the US wanted, they should have invaded Saudi
Arabia :) Free oil! They should also have cut off the fucking Israelis,
who knew that the attack was immanent.

> someone sent this to me on twitter long ago so this isnt anything new i am
> pointing out
>

> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:44 AM, Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> mirimir i would have to dig up the quote where the fuck says that
>> basically it is good us is invading to get back at the iraqi's for 9-11
>>
>> umn the iraqi's had nothing to do with 9-11 and he swallowed that tripe...
>> i am sorry but that is just stupid x 5 million
>>
>> i dont care about his excuses my pet spider even knew it was crap
>>
>> if you can give him a pass for being 'apathetic' which i wouldnt frame it
>> like that then that says a lot about you - its not apathy to support a
>> fucking invasion of a people - people that are apathetic are like i dont
>> know not oh yay lets do it it is a totally different mindset
>>
>> and that he is here in daily kos framing out this lie says more to me
>> about his lack of character than anything and you of course didnt address
>> that part - if the fuck was an actual person he could be like yay i sucked
>> but now i know better i changed its so great we get to change our minds in
>> our lifetimes and fucking grow but does gleenny do that no he cant face
>> himself its pathetic he lives in his ego
>>
>> ego doesnt want people saying they are wrong ever and its a death echo
>> chamber
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:22 PM, Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/07/2015 11:50 AM, Cari Machet wrote:
>>>> dear mirimir you cannot read
>>>>
>>>> 'Nonetheless, because of the general faith I had in political and media
>>>> institutions, I assumed - since both political parties and media outlets
>>>> and journalists from across the ideological spectrum were united in
>>> support
>>>> of the war - that there must be some valid basis to the claim that
>>> Saddam
>>>> posed a threat. My basic trust in these institutions neutralized the
>>>> objections I had and led me to passively acquiesce to what was being
>>> done
>>>> ("I believed then that the president was entitled to have his national
>>>> security judgment deferred to, and to the extent that I was able to
>>> develop
>>>> a definitive view, I accepted his judgment that American security really
>>>> would be enhanced by the invasion of this sovereign country.").'
>>>>
>>>> did you read the motherfucking article?
>>>
>>> Yes, I read the motherfucking article. He says that he was apathetic,
>>> and trusted institutions (and even that asshole W). Maybe he needs to do
>>> more mea culpas for that, or cut off his left pinkie. But unless you
>>> cite some public statement where he actively supported the invasion,
>>> rather than just deferred to arguably better-informed opinions, it's no
>>> big deal in the current context. In my opinion.
>>>
>>>> this should tell you how duplicitous he is just like the government
>>> says he
>>>> didnt do anything - he didnt fuck that bitch - oh he fucked them hard
>>> though
>>>
>>> I'd say rather that he let Uncle Dick finger fuck him, but just a little
>>> ;)
>>>
>>>> also daily kos sucks
>>>
>>> Yeah, I don't read that shit.
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/06/2015 10:29 PM, Juan wrote:
>>>>>> Well, everything should have been put in the public domain
>>>>>>       from day zero. But Snowden thought that would hurt
>>>>>>       the interests of the american nazi state. Or maybe he didn't
>>>>>>       want to be killed like a dog. Who knows.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know. As many people who've attempted to change the Crypto-Fascist
>>>>> shithole called "America" have noted, the powers that be ARE TOO STRONG
>>>>> to take on... head on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Snowden has set in motion The 'death of a thousand (intelligence) cuts'
>>>>> to weaken the surveillance state enough that the issue can be
>>> approached
>>>>> at all in some way that MAY change it.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as whether Greenwald and co or Snowden's a capitalist, or a
>>>>> libertard, a demoncrat or rethuglican (the ONLY diff is who receives
>>> the
>>>>> booty from our imperial adventurism where brown people die) ...is
>>>>> absolutely irrelevant to the end result.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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