It has no implications other than Mr. Best has too much time on his hands. It is not a big deal in any way.

I don't think anyone's missing the point.
The mass of dumps are yet another datapoint that confirms the ethos, the integrity of the slides, whether there are false flags, etc, doesn't matter in the least. Did the GCHQ drink too much to evade KD fingerprinting while writing the slides, and instead scraped together a photoshopped screenie?

I am amused by the theory that this is all an elaborate troll, in 10 years Snowden will declare he personally made it up in one epic last disclosure, with a dickbutt on the last slide.

There's one message:
Whatever is technically possible will happen. It will continue to happen, whether they be your government, someone else's government a corporation that handles your data or by criminals.

Build systems that are secure from what is technically possible; not because you've deleted the logs - but because there is no data to grab.

-Travis

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Shelley <shelley@misanthropia.org> wrote:
On October 8, 2015 10:44:02 AM Travis Biehn <tbiehn@gmail.com> wrote:

Who cares about these personalities and their websites? Who cares if JYA is
jerk/whacko/nerd/wizard mage?
You should assume he is an attacker, just like everyone else.

Getting caught up in this he-said-she-said is totally, ultimately, absurdly
pointless.

Who cares about cryptome keeping server logs? If you're worried about
showing up in logs then you ought to be using TAILS. JYAs logs are just
less accurate copies of what the TLAs, his hosting provider, their upstream
peers, the guys on the lower floor at the PX & the memory scrapers
implanted on his server already keep.

-Travis

 You're right about the privacy aspect, but still missing the entire point.

I don't care about showing up in server logs, although my personal security practices are much different now than they were six years ago.  I may have spotted my own information in the data, and I might be able to prove it (the Palm Pre is in a box 'o bits & crap somewhere.)

The bigger picture is not why Cryptome appears to be distributing old log files, but validity of the GHCQ slide in question.  That's why all the data is being put up for scrutiny, and we are losing sight of the importance of it with all the noise.

Doesn't matter if JY is a fed asset.  Doesn't matter if Best is a troll with a personal vendetta against JY/Cryptome (neither of which I believe to be true, but still.)

A slide was presented as being part of the Snowden dump.  A researcher has shown that with these log files, anyone could have made this slide.  This is a Big Fucking Deal with possibly numerous implications about a much larger dataset.

Forget about who is saying what and just look at the data and draw your own conclusions.  We are better than this.

-Shelley

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:

> Mike Best should keep digging, hardly scratched the surface of yards
> way too fenced by secrecy.
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