On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:09:08 +0100
Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:

> a scientist that worked on the genome will no longer work with state
> money and condemns the state - that should tell you what is happening
> more than anything
>
> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-algae-feed-the-world-and-fuel-the-planet/

        1) there seem to be a lot of fugazzi there.

        2) he doesn't work for the state anymore, now he works for
        exxon? =)


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> and tesla ... just look at tesla

        yes, see tesla's actual contributions to engineering

        http://edisontechcenter.org/AC-PowerHistory.html

        compare to this

        http://edisontechcenter.org/GalileoFerraris.html


        Regardless, it is certainly a fact that state and 'private'
        industry closely cooperate for mutual benefit at the expense of
        the subjects and consumers (who obviously pay the bills)

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> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net>
> wrote:
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> > On 02/20/2016 08:43 AM, Cari Machet wrote:
> > > its not just about the money
> > >
> > > look into hybrid rule initiated by the nixon executive branch
> > >
> > > industry is harnessed like a father fucking mule for the state
> > > >>>>> for the protection of the state
> >
> > I have come to view the State as a machine that converts money
> > into power, and power back into money, in an accelerating feedback
> > cycle.  This would make 'national security' a mechanism for
> > defending that machine's operation, and of course, accelerating
> > the process of delivering money/power into the hands of those who
> > already have the most of both.
> >
> > > ask yourself why the state would need to amp its protections :
> > > nation state structures are not working its a dying form
> >
> > Verily.  The feedback cycle described above, and the industrial
> > markets that parasitically co-exist with it, must both grow
> > exponentially to survive.  Since this exponential growth is
> > happening inside a closed container, failure is inherent in their
> > structural foundations.
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