On 09/19/2018 11:09 PM, jamesd@echeque.com wrote:
On 2018-09-20 12:03, Mirimir wrote:
But again, does it really matter whether there was a plane, or just a missile? As long as we're assuming that the US military orchestrated the attack, or at least played some nontrivial role, that is ;)
It is unlikely that the US military orchestrated the attack.
Insofar as the US is to blame, the hijackings were obviously and undeniably real, planes got destroyed, airline passengers died, bits of them got spread over the landscape.
And the guy who ordered the FBI to turn a blind eye to the hijackers is Robert Mueller, who is in a state of proxy war with the US military.
Sorry, I was being careless. You believe that it was the blue team. The main player being the State Department, plus the FBI and (I'm guessing) the CIA. And that the blue team, mainly the military, and including (I'm guessing) the NSA. I gather that BushII was a CIA asset, so the 9/11 attacks were part of his (or rather, Chaney's) game plan. Cheney was part of Iran-Contra, a CIA operation. And a cohort in that, Lee Hamilton, went on to whitewash Chaney's role in 9/11. And of course, we can't forget Condoleezza Rice, who served as National Security Advisor and Secretary of State under W. Anyway, back to the point. I gather that Juan holds the US government responsible for 9/11. And he focuses mainly on the military, which is Jim's red team. But I suspect that Juan hates all aspects of the US government, more or less equally. So is that accurate, Juan? And could you agree that it developed out of an internal power structute=r I am rather taken with the red team vs blue team analysis. But I think that it's too simplistic. There are arguably many more power centers in conflict.