On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 14:43:04 +0100
Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:


> ask yourself why the state would need to amp its protections : nation
> state structures are not working its a dying form

        ...if that's true, then nation states are being replaced with a
        transnational state. Not exactly good news.

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> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net>
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> > On 02/20/2016 07:40 AM, John Young wrote:
> > > USG is not USA. Apple is not its buyers. USG v Apple is not
> > > about citizens and privacy. It's about secretkeepers against
> > > the public.
> >
> > It's also about client (USG) vs. vendor (Apple).  The fact that IT
> > vendors get paid to comply with State demands is almost never
> > mentioned in published accounts.
> >
> > So does the status of many consumer IT vendors including Apple as
> > 'defense' contractors, i.e. the Romas/COIN project and its
> > replacement(s), where Apple was listed as a participant in the
> > bidding process per HB Gary documents.  This suggests that Apple
> > is or sought to be complicit in spying on, manipulating, and
> > killing members of the public - strictly for the money, of course.
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