James,

I'm checking with you that we can communicate clear, concise information that is to both our benefits, through the harsh sea of the internet.

I named to you below 3 open source networks that use varying degrees of cryptography and network organization to resist censorship.

I sent these in response to you instructing me to look on uncensored social media.

Later, when you replied, the quote I received from you didn't include the list of censorship resistant networks I sent.  Is there any chance you can confirm you received them, so we can verify the integrity of the list?

If uncensored networks are not discussed to prevent their disruption, which is likely an incredibly good idea, please let me know if that norm has been established, but the three networks I referenced are all public.

Did anybody else receive my small open source network list below?  I have recently received only a reference to bitmessage from this list, but I do not read all the messages all the time.

If a norm has been established to not reference uncensored networks so as to prevent their disruption, which is likely an incredibly good idea, please let me know: but the 3 networks I referenced are all public.

James, I still have not received from you any reference to what networks you mean when you say "uncensored social media" to know where to look.

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020, 5:38 AM Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:

James, we have a lot of different beliefs here.

I don't know where to go on uncensored channels to find the videos you describe.  I consider uncensored social media to be scuttlebutt, mastodon, possibly steem ... What do you consider uncensored social media?

I know these particular friends well enough to predict their behavior accurately and am pretty certain they are not lying.  So I get emotionally charged when I read what you write, and it's hard to read much of it.

My activist friend just wanted to cry and be heard about seeing his friends murdered around him.  It was all he seemed to want.

You mention a black jogger, but not the george floyd video everybody struggled to get recognised this year ... what do you know about the george floyd video?

K

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There is proof inside many peoples' electronics.  Proof that a marketing group would contract development of a frightening virus.  A virus that responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en masse, for profit.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 9:35 PM <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:

On 2020-08-03 21:37, Karl wrote:
> James it sounds like we've been exposed to significantly different media,
> giving us different beliefs.

Just search uncensored social media.  You will find huge numbers of
videos of black gangs attacking whites.

Search the official organs of the state, such as the New York Times or CNN.

What do you find?

What do you find on the official organs of our officially unofficial
state religion?

You find a black "jogger" who was accosted by three white men after
committing a minor burglary, and grabbed the gun of one them by the
wrong end.

> My knowledge of killing of blacks comes partly from hearing from individual
> people exposed to it.

They are lying to you because it makes them holy.  It is like Christians
claiming to have witnessed miracles.

If any of miracles that they had witnessed actually happened, they would
be in the front page of the New York Times every day for the next twenty
years.

Everyone remembers Emmett Till, who was not in fact lynched, but
murdered, like no end of men of all races who made a pass at someone
else's wife.  The problem was not that she was white and he was black,
but that she had a jealous husband.

If in the entire history of the all of the United States, one black had
been lynched who was not plausibly accused of some serious crime, that
black man would be the poster boy for lynchings, not Emmett Till.

If these things are happening, how come we cannot walk down the street
without being reminded of it by big character posters every ten feet?

> My closest friend's black roommate had to leave due to harassment from
> whites expressing dislike of blacks who actually broke her door down to get
> to her.

Remember Jussie Smollet.  If she was telling you the truth, why is every
single such story that media hears turn out to be a lie?

Remember the  Covington Boys.

The media are so hungry for such incidents, that they invent them.  They
search high and low for such incidents, and have not found one such
incident in the past several decades.  Remember all the drama about a
garage door opener that someone thought looked vaguely like a noose.

Are you sure they did not express dislike of her because of theft and
assault?  Are you sure she did not just stop turning up to college
because she got bored, and told a better sounding story?

If white people actually broke down the door of a black college student
while expressing dislike of blacks, you would not be hearing it from her
and I not be hearing it from you.  I would be hearing it on television
for days or weeks or months.

There has not been one arbitrary lynching for frivolous cause anywhere
in the United States ever, nor one such incident as you describe
anywhere in the United States in the past few decades.

The media has shouted no end of such stories from the rooftops, and not
one single one has ever held up.