On 12/13/2016 01:13 PM, #$%& wrote:
Why? I, unlike quinn, am not a statist nor I advocate censorship on a list devoted to cyber freedom. Quinn on the other hand wants censorship, something which, as a few people noticed, goes against core cypherpunk values. If a person subscribes to a mailing list devoted to principles he despises, he surely must be trolling. Trolling big time.
Again, this time with definitions: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/moderation Noun moderation (countable and uncountable, plural moderations) [...] The process of moderating a discussion https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/moderate Verb moderate (third-person singular simple present moderates, present participle moderating, simple past and past participle moderated) [...] (intransitive) To become less excessive [...] (intransitive) To act as a moderator; to assist in bringing to compromise Contrast this with: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/censorship Noun censorship (countable and uncountable, plural censorships) The use of state or group power to control freedom of expression or press, such as passing laws to prevent media from being published or propagated. One is still free to post one's own thoughts elsewhere when presented with a moderated forum whose members do not allow them or otherwise declare them to be off topic. By all means, please start neonaziandkkkpunks@longlivehitler.wherever.com if that's what you want. But please recognize moderating the list we are on now would still leave you free to express whatever you want. The rest of us that actually want to discuss cypherpunk values could do without all this garbage, filth, and spam. I despise censorship (just read the archives of the first blog in my sig) and I am frequently cited as the most anti-censorship guy among my various large groups of friends. I'm the first one to add PDF versions of banned books to my BitTorrent client to further any attempt to preserve them for the ages. Moderation is a completely different concept than outright censorship, and it is important to learn the huge difference. -- Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn@rushpost.com> http://www.rantroulette.com http://www.skqrecordquest.com